IDK what it is but honestly, golds play better than some “diamonds” who shouldnt be in diamond because they still rush in on their own 1vs6
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The problem with low diamond is that that’s where people start to think they’re really good. You can climb there easily without working with your team and, once they start having to, they don’t even realize their refusal to do that is the problem.
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I’ve heard till mid GM you ain’t gonna get cooperative teammates, so work with what you got.
Chances are the enemy team has even 2x of those people compare to yours.
OMG. You are so wise. Why didnt i think of that
meh high diamond is basically people who got boosted in find a groups and think they are good enough and solo q and get rolled cause they got boosted by a smurf in find a group and had no idea how to play in high diamond.
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Oh no no no … 
No, not really.
Look, obviously theres “boosted” people everywhere and the higher you go, the more you find (because nobody is BOOSTED to silver). So yeah, you can have that sensation but I can guarantee you, 100%, without a doubt or chance of being wrong, that if you put a 3200 player for 3 seasons straight, vs a Gold player stuck on 2200 for 3 seasons, there is NO WAY the Gold is better.
Nah.
That just doesnt happen.
Sorry 
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all ranks are the same, even gm. its garbage in its own way.
but i agree with op, diamond is the worst…
Yeah diamond players are so strong I can usually detect them when they show up in QP games. They’re obnoxiously good shots. You can easily tell the difference from plat/gold.
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Are you being sarcastic
Diamond is where players tend to take things more seriously, playing optimal heroes in meta comps.
Which is when I stopped playing comp, given my hero pool, I would just get constant crap from my team. No thanks.
I get so annoyed with my teammates who are constantly being taken down by a Widow or a Hanzo - because they gave them the opportunity, rather than going “Oh wow, they managed to pick off two people really fast, maybe I should play more conservatively around cover…” - Nope. That thought process never seems to occur to people.
It’s weird, I’m not really a great hitscan, but I’ve played so much Widow that I just naturally stand in places I know she can’t easily get me, and I basically never get picked off by her - even the really good ones. I do tend to play characters that don’t require you to have visual line of sight which helps a lot with that though, so it could just be my pick, but still - Junkrat, you don’t need to go past the gates on Hanamura, bud, trust me.
People get used to gold/plat where Widow is a useless throw pick and Hanzo is entirely luck based. You don’t counter Widow/Hanzo in gold/plat by countering them or playing different, you just play more aggressive because you can steamroll the other team who is effectively down a player.
That starts in low masters for me. (At my lowest SR in years right now but have been masters+ for years before this week). Low masters is basically diamond but with voice chat. It’s maddening, though, to see how many diamond players could be masters and not be losing me games if they’d just get in the chat. They don’t even know that’s the main difference.
Exactly, but it seems like… Very rudimentary logic that if the Widow or Hanzo manages to land shots and prove that they’re decent, you should alter course and play accordingly. I mean, just because I SEE that the enemy has a Sombra, doesn’t mean I start immediately panicking (as Sym) there are so many Sombras in this game that are close to useless that even if she does take down my ult every time, it doesn’t matter, she doesn’t make up enough of a difference to ‘count me out’.
But if a Sombra is good, she’ll destroy my turrets before her team gets there and give them an opportunity to push clean, she’ll use her ult in the right spot to take down my turrets and my wall, she’ll be smart to save her EMP for my wall, too.
It’s rare that I have a good enemy Sombra, but it does happen from time to time, and I’ll swap or make big adjustments based on her presence.
So I frankly don’t understand why everyone else I get paired with seems to think “Well, the Widow just took down two other people instantly… Sure, I can peek this corner! Surely she won’t get me.”
Like why are all my teammates the people who die first in horror movies?
Sure, and that happens. But you don’t remember those because those matches went better.
I mean it’s definitely possible, I won’t say it’s never happened, I just don’t understand why I have so many matches where it seems to be that the answer is “They have a very good Widow. She can land her shots. Play accordingly.” and none of my teammates reach that conclusion. They keep playing Doomfist, Roadhog, McCree, Hanzo, going out past the physical barriers of the game and immediately dying. Over and over again, too. It’d be one thing if they died and then played more conservatively after, but they don’t, they just keep going out and dying, and we get hard snowballed because at this point in the game you can’t really win even a 4v6 unless you have the exact right ults to combo and the enemy has none. Which… when does THAT happen? lol.
edit: Especially on Defense. Like… WHY are you going out past the walls 2nd point Hanamura, Hanzo? What’s out there that calls you so badly? Why not stay INSIDE and let THEM come to the point, and then you shoot them? Huh? Why is that so… undoable???
Sometimes its not even that u get a mechanically bad player, its the sheer stupidity which they proudly show off. Like dude, its fine, to a certain extent we are all kinda trash, but are not only trash and accuse others, u are also a m0ron.
Ofc, its all the others which are bad then, and they wouldnt even recognize their own dumbness in a mirror. Plat to Diamond is where i meet such ppl. I have seen more intelligent gameplay from random gold ranked tanks in my game.
Honestly, it beats me why you’re seeing that so much in diamond. Even in Gold/Plat people do not usually remain that stupid about a Widow (god knows they never do when I try to play her).
Oh I’m not in diamond, that other guy is - I largely just play in average kinds of QP matches, that’s what my experience is. We do get a lot of smurfs though, and it’s wild to me how often it seems no one on my team can account for it. Like it should be evident when the enemy Widow is just that good; no one in our general area is able to land that many headshots in a row, or positions in those weird places, clearly this is a smurf Widow, let’s at least try and stay inside some so she can’t super kill us right away in the predictable spots? No? Okay then - and then they all run in through main to death.
Like I think my point is that if I, an average player and person of no great game intelligence, can piece together this basic stuff; why can’t anyone else? Or why does it seem to be rather rare that they can? The only people I see playing smart when there’s a good smurf widow is the healers, because they know general evasive maneuvers. The rest of the DPS just… don’t bother trying? I’m not sure what their plan is other than die over and over again, tbh.
lol someone didnt played in gold since a long time. I can tell you i ll tilted 100x more in a gold game than a diamond one. In gold having a clear 6v6 in attack is a miracle, in diamond its the norm. Play rein in gold like if it was your true rank and tryhard, you will go mad.