Look, if Cyberpunk can get a comeback, so can Overwatch

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lol… you didnt even make points you dunder head

what points did you make there? youre such a genius for having a computer and typing away like youre providing anything useful to anything.

i apparently lack context… and youre the one who doesnt even list points saying “blah blah blah… this is true because blah blah blah more updates fixed those bugs.”

but i guess you think that

^ this is a point

^ and that is such a clear point everyone that reads that you sit there in your computer chair thinking all smugly that youre the most smarterest person in the world for having a computer and typing away nonsensically.

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did it stay more than a day ?

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Do we really have to wait for 2 years of updates to get a stable and good game?

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Like I said, one MILLION players EVERY SINGLE DAY THIS WEEK. Meaning yes, the boom in interest caused by the anime has stayed at least a week. I myself am replaying the whole game because of it. And massive patch fixes and new content are keeping me around now that I was interested in replaying.

Leave it to Blizzard to cancel the netflix show they had in the works, which was rumoured before Arcane AND before Cyberpunk: Edgerunners. They have such a great IP but refuse to produce content for it :frowning: A show would have been great, and would have saved overwatch.

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Except all those had company that cared about their customers a lot esp cd projekt cyberpunk was just their first time blundering.

Destiny bungie did well once they got out of activision.

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i think activision want COD anime more than Overwatch Anime

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I mean, what’s wrong with you guys? Who’s gonna work on a game for free? If Overwatch isn’t making money, then we can’t have new content.

You know no one buying loot boxes, but they’re also being outlawed as they’re seen as a form of gambling. If the game is a live-service game, they have to have income coming in. Why is it not obvious that they need to be funded or no one’s going to work on the game for free? How do you expect free content in a game you bought once over six years ago?

And then, in Overwatch 2, it’s only going to cost what? $40 a year? But we’re complaining about that…

But, let’s make a real sequel- throw everything out. Don’t use any assets from OW1. Oh, wait, that means all the skins you paid for are gone too. This is why live-service games don’t get sequels.

To the credit of blizzard, they at least threw out the sound design of the last game. But, in my opinion, they should have updated the muddy textures and low-quality assets used in the game’s maps, and just added filter options for the characters.

As far as gameplay goes, it’s good that they reworked the characters that just don’t work (except Sym, but as far as reworking for a sequel goes, I think it’s barely enough).

It’s also good that they’ve redone the Overhealth, but they should have looked into at least one more thing. Probably how barriers functioned, since that was the main issue with the gameplay, as Blizzard itself released a statement saying they didn’t want another shield tank in the game after Sigma.

It’s obvious that Barriers should have had ceilings and caps, and a shared resource of some kind for the entire team.

But, competitive is also being changed. Wish they got more creative than “gold 1, gold 2, and gold 3.” Street Fighter V went with “Gold, Super Gold, and Ultra Gold,” for example.

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The difference is that the developers showed care and dedication to the craft, admitted a mistake and listened to the feedback. Everything that is beyond Blizzard’s capability. If you want to look for a more arrogant developer, look no further than towards Activision and Blizzard.

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Ya well… Thing is overwatch didnt bust out a crazy good anime on netflix so… I wouldnt compare it to cp77. I do agree a lot of players will return and stay if content keeps flowing tho.

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Yeah you are going to have to chill on that one from Guild Wars mate. First part was and still is amazing, second one was one of the top games that years so yeah, no.

Cyberpunk started as a scam, and now its kind of “playable”. Still not good or anything to “come back” to.

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Yes I actually didn’t know about Guild Wars and just assumed OP knew what he was talking about. I just quoted him without doing research for every game he mentioned.

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F2P monetization shouldn’t be acceptable. It is even more predatory than OWs loot boxes were because they’re planning to make every last piece of progression/cosmetic item, FOMO based. It is unacceptable basically full stop.

I give credit where it is due, I know the art team and some changes are okay. But what they are giving is not the promised OW2 sequel, it genuinely is just a monetization model change at the end of the day, also the graphics update still looks pretty crappy even on a 3080 so there’s that. I don’t really have much gameplay complaints, I am gold, everything they do to the game from this perspective will basically never affect me, the only thing that does is cosmetics and it is a problem.

It is more than $30-40 a year if you actually want more meaningful stuff which most of us are likely going to fall into that trap really easily and quickly, this is all intentional. Yes, they should make money but they do not need to go as far as FOMO based battle passes, just add a battle pass and let people get stuff later. FOMO based shops should never be a thing, why is this new skin/bundle never coming back? That makes them significantly less money by never bringing these things back. And heroes, a gameplay aspect, should not be locked behind anything, it breaks a core promise and genuinely goes against the company values that they supposedly uphold.

And if you do not care about skins or cosmetics then good for you, enough people do which is exactly why they’re going the predatory route. Most of us will be taking the brunt of it all too, and nobody seems to care. It’s always dismissed as a “self control” thing when it’s actually a mental disorder thing and addiction based thing.

“But how were OWs loot boxes not as predatory if not worse?” Simply put, they never were an issue, ever. They did make 2 billion dollars off loot box sales alone, they just needed to add more to them more frequently. Loot boxes only became predatory when garbage EA stepped in and put pay to win garbage into loot boxes, OWs were never like this, OW just started the idea, and other companies made them predatory.

“But where did all that money go? How come people didn’t just keep buying?” Bad decisions, and bad balance choices like reworking Mercy and adding Brig at all. Mercy’s player base alone accounted for probably 20% of the 50 million people who bought the game. This of course would make people quit and not continue to buy boxes. It was never a lack of money though. They have said many times it takes about 1 million dollars to make a new hero, 2 billion alone could have funded another 30-50+ heroes. The servers don’t cost that much to run. The OWL didn’t cost billions of dollars to form, and that money came from separate things, not OWs revenue. Most of that money went to Koticks pockets, just like all the F2P money is going to go to his pockets and not back into the game.

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Must not know the game very well then. Sinks the entire argument.

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So without reading that giant wall of text, the obvious thing to do is create a F2P model without the FOMO. You can have one without the other.

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I feel so bad for Cyberpunk… I guess we will be seeing an Overwatch animated series soon

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That would be ideal but that unfortunately isn’t the world we live in.

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cyberpunk 2077 borrows the lore and story from the old tabletop game cyberpunk from the late 80s/early 90s. i remember passing it by when i was into D&D table-top games and books during my middle and high school years.

little did i know they would use that world build for a game in 2020… crazy heh

h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cyberpunk_(role-playing_game)

its actually funny since one of their ruleset books was called cyberpunk 2020

there is a WHOLE list of books and comics from that era… TONS of them

h ttps://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Cyberpunk_2020_books

also if you google “cyberpunk 2020 book art” you’ll see the old black and white art from the corebooks. really awesome old D&D art from back in the day

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The optimist in me hopes ow can make a return in 2024 with a BP rework, well timed content updates, and an animated series.

The rest of this year will be mid and I see a big 2023 slump after new hype dies down. Blizzards made too many awful choices and it’s not something that can be recovered in a year.

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No reason it can’t be both? Technically speaking every update is a replacement, because you will no longer be able to play the previous patch of the game once a new one comes out.

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Playing since launch. It had severe content drought leading up to the first expansion and even more content drought after the first expansion.