Who cares the game is dead and has been for quite some time now. 2/2/2 will basically just raise dps que times to 20 minutes and thus will just force them to learn a new role.
I think the better fix is to simply incentivize playing the other 2 roles for the average joe blow areas of the ladder. There is nothing worse than watching a person that has zero idea how to tank actually tank. It’s atrocious.
Yeah if the player base drops a lot it will be a problem.
Not mine though. However the lack of good comp contributes to reducing how much I play. I hope that enough players stay. I don’t think it’s that big a deal to fill other other roles some of the time. I also think group play will benefit greatly from choosing roles. My 1700 friends want to play dps too. They want to try out tank as well. Separate mmr will allow groups to have better games
How can it be dead when i still have ques of less than 3 minutes regardless of time of day?
The playerbase already dropped, role q solves this yet only if it doesn’t increase the amount of players leaving (as you stated)
So I’m afraid its possible that it might be to late and holding on to what’s left could be the best course of action.
In the end only blizzard is provided with the numbers and actually knows for sure 
By increasing the MMs tolerance when creating matches.
I had a session last week at around prime time and I ran into the same 3 or 4 players 3 straight games in a row at about 1900 Sr which is a pretty run of the mill rating. They were not in a group either. That is not a good sign of a lively ladder.
I sit currently at 2050 & dont see same ppl.
I tend to wait 5 mins between matches as well due to irl stuff.
I’m not looking for the same people, I’m looking for the groups in my matches. Its a better indicator as the MM tries not to place you into unblanced matches unless he struggles to find players.
Forcing 2/2/2 make the ladder games more reliant on teammates. Now you can’t play that third tank to contest a competent Widow, for instance.
Or play a third DPS to counter a specific enemy build or map (torb for double flankers, Mei for stall, etc.).
Unless they rehaul the heroes completely so that every role has a few self sustaining heroes without losing their essential roles, the games will be just as toxic if not more.
If you don’t want goats in OWL, just force 222 there and don’t ruin the whole game.
You can’t ruin something that’s already been ruined a million times over.
This game is garbage, but for some reason i like the “SR” mini-game within it
Here how it will go,2-2-2 release,ow team observe the situation,and if it good,its stay,if not,they will removed it.
I think they should make it so you must have at least 1 support and 1 tank.
PLEASE add 2-2-2 i’m 7 games in this season and 6 have been lost because of either 3 or 4 dps that don’t want to switch. Games weren’t close. I am stuck at Plat because of crap teammates.
It does sound like it would be good riddance.
It’s not an issue because the average player in ranked will rarely make use of this extra flexibility. I’d prefer not having it, and being able to run creative comps, but the occurrence of throw comps and people tilting because there’s an extra DPS is much higher than people purposely running non 2-2-2/goats etc comps these days. It’s a worthwhile change
Locked 2 / 2 / 2 would probably help at least in Bronze and Silver games, where ppl usually don’t understand that Tank + Support + Dps > Support + Dps. Ofc there have been matches where some of luck has been dedected and Dps team has won, but those cases are really rare. Personally i would like to see that at least 1 tank and 2 Supports are locked, rest 3 can be eaither Dps or 1 more Tank ( depents on situation ) and 2 Dps.
e: so either 2 / 2 / 2 or 1 Tank / 2 Support / 3 Flex, both would be fine to me.
Good. We don’t want them playing. That’s the point. We want to eliminate the folks who think they are godlike players when in reality they suck. If all someone plays is DPS, make them wait. A good DPS player will wait. A crappy one will throw a fit and stop playing, which is what we want. The toxic tilted players gone from comp.
You know what will never happen?
Toxic players leaving comp.
Ever.
I don’t know if role queu is good for the game or not, but it will actually make for even more toxic players, I predict. Just like the reporting system, and just like awarding medals. Again, I’m not even talking about any of the other things as far as being better for the game or not, but every time Blizzard tries to stop toxicity, they actually actively increase it.
It’s actually amazing.
The reason why matches in this game feel like sh1t most of the time and why the game is making people toxic is that
a) people cannot always play their main role
b) teams are probably uneven in that sense most of the time - one team has more mains than the other - resulting in stomp fests
2-2-2 queue might not be the perfect solution but its sure an improvement. Im sure that almost every player agrees that the current state of match quality is a joke.
You cud also offer players to queue up for more than one format, say 2-2-2 and 1-3-2 at the same time. More niche, unpopular formats would fill up slower, but eh…
chess has 1 queen 2 rooks 2 knights. etc
soccer has 1 goalie
baseball has 1 batter
games are made up of structure. OW is no different. it is designed to be played with a combination of tanks dps and healers. its designed to be an esport.
of coarse if you could play chess with only queens everyone would (goats)
locking 222 wont destroy creativity and freedom, it will increase it, because people wont be locked into the one best objective goats comp.
222 will save the game as a competitive game