Venture. Seriously. Her entire personality is just “I wanna be differently different” and it’s seriously grating. My stepsister is nonbinary and she doesn’t feel the need to act in such an insufferable manner.
I will give credit where it’s due though. Tracer and Soldier were masterfully done.
Centering it around a month. For Blizz, that’s really it. They haven’t done anything egregious, it’s just really the fact that they only do this at pride month that gets me.
But I’m talking about pride month in GENERAL. Not just Blizz. I don’t think I need to explain how it’s been annoying for the past several years.
So…centrist? Blaire isn’t exactly some far right extremist. She’s only portrayed that way by far leftists.
No offense, but this just screams uninformed.
Blaire is the only person from the LGBT community to ever debate Ben Shapiro and win. Because of her, he respects trans people much more and refers to them with the pronouns of the gender they’re presenting as. Blaire is not interested in lessening our rights. She calls out problematic members of the community that we should ALL be addressing.
Excluding from media and specifically representing are two different things. Hazbin Hotel and funnily enough Qforce did representation pretty well. Hazbin made sexuality completely unimportant. The characters were gay, but that’s a very small aspect of their personalities. On the other hand, Qforce actively made fun of the stereotypes perpetuated by the media.
I’m not saying “Don’t show gay people on screen”. But doing it tastefully and well is the bare minimum that isn’t met very often.
Ok, well I didn’t even know I needed this until I read your post.
TS-1 deserves to feel pretty, too. Changing its voice a bit would also be funny/make me like Push a hair more. Toronto Pride is also a pretty big deal (with a lot of criticism it’s gotten too corporate).
Also, the wiki does come out and say it’s a “bi-pedal robot”. I suppose that means heels, at least.
that’s a fantasy and you know it, The only reason why it would ever happen is cuz some corpo rat around the top thought to himself “hmmm if we add more pride stuff it could be a PR win, and that could mean a 3rd house for me ” in which case the LGBT community’s most important month will just be used by people who don’t care, for their own personal benefit.
tho ig that’s alr happening with pride month
Venture’s entire personality is just liking digging, history, and rocks. Which I-… I don’t quite see the part that’s “being differently different” .
You’re allowed to find a hero annoying all you want, but I don’t think their queerness is the cause of your dislike.
Well, this thread/post was started with the aim of providing new ideas that they could implement for a next pride event. The will to ask the dev team to add more content is clearly active.
Ever since 2021 she has been moving over more and more towards the neo-con and far right people.
That debate was all the way back in 2018.
In 2024 she hasn’t really done much to advocate for acceptance. She has gotten a lot closer to figures like richard spencer. Along with casually interacting with open-bigots on youtube.
She doesn’t call out ‘problematic’ people. She calls out teenagers who act in cringy ways, which is a little absurd considering that Teens are cringe by default, I don’t see how making videos about how someone sharing a dumb opinion while their young somehow harms the struggle for queer acceptance.
I think the bigger problem is the difference between how a show/series chooses to frame their queer characters within the actual product, and how the marketing teams advertise it outside the show.
I’m not denying the existence of rainbow capitalism, I’m saying there are positive effects to it.
There’s a reason why many people dread it when someone asks for inclusiveness or diversity and things like that. or see it happen, because we’ve seen time and time again pieces of media try and be more inclusive and progressive, the quality drops of the media drops.
not because of the LGBT stuff being included are bad (correlation doesn’t equal causation) but because they’re implemented in a lazy half-a manner either because they were added to just to virtue signal, or because the people people behind it don’t know what they’re doing or are just aren’t very good at their job in the 1st place. and so the quality as whole of the creation drops.
and asking a bug company who doesn’t care to dk a good job when being inclusive and diverse. isn’t going to happen
It’s like Tracer, but seemingly intentionally exaggerated. Normal people act like Tracer. Hell, I act like her a lot. No one acts like Venture unless they’re putting on an act. It’s unnecessarily cartoonish.
They intentionally made the first nonbinary hero fundamentally different from every other hero in a negative way. I don’t think they’d make any other hero like that. A stereotype of nonbinary people is that they just want to be different, and Venture portrays that stereotype perfectly.
I think the debate happening at all is enough to show where she stands. In 2024, she understands that acceptance is already obtained. The issue is the problems in our community undermining acceptance, and she cuts them down. She’s not doing it as directly but she’s still fighting the good fight and slaying while doing it.
It’s actually mostly adults being incredibly creepy or, funnily enough, bigoted. I’d recommend checking her out again. You don’t need to agree with her political takes, but you should understand what you’re talking about before you have a discussion.
It’s both. Marketing “WE HAVE A GAY CHARACTER” is obnoxious, but so are the common stereotypes Qforce loves to make fun of.
Videogames exaggerate things by default, personality often being the first thing that becomes the most excentric.
Every hero in OW when reduced to their archetype is cartoonish.
There’s nothing different about Venture that’s a negative. The reason they’re different is because every hero is meant to be a unique person that us players can relate to in some way.
People’s views change over time, so does their friend circle. Blaire is a noticeable example that slowly shifted to the right.
And teens being teens isn’t exactly an issue, it’s just them experimenting and learning about themselves. We should just leave them to their own devices, not make videos about how ‘cringy’ they are.
It’s not often adults, she overwhelmingly spends her time complaining about very small ticktock channels that say stupid or cringy things that predominantly are owned by teens. I don’t see the value in targeting a community of thousands at these people. Not when they aren’t having any real influence by themselves and their 12 followers.
I’m unfortunately quite familiar with Blaire and her content, considering she pierces trans discourse all too often.
Annoyance and harm are 2 very different things. And I prefer a company be annoying in its performativity, than actually harmful.
When it’s so much more than every other hero, it stands out in a very negative way.
Yeah…no. I’m sorry, but you’re just wrong here. Blaire hasn’t backtracked once on anything she’s said. She’s also managed to build an accepting predominantly right wing community, which I think is very important to touch on here.
There comes a point where people need to be called out or the behavior escalates. And again, it’s mostly adults.
It is. I’m serious, dude. Check out her channel. Almost all of the people she goes for are at least young adults.
Even more unfortunately, you seem to be misunderstanding her despite this claim.
Personally, I don’t settle. I think that neither is acceptable and both need to be stamped out.
THANK YOU! finally someone said it and i agree wholeheartedly as a bisexual person. im getting tired of this new generation/wave of these folks constantly demanding and whining as if they’re always “oppressed.” we’ve already achieved what we want in society, pure acceptance. all this does is make people hate us once more if these people keep up with their antics
Why does it matter when, the corps doesn’t live by same principals and censor content from certain countries… Doesn’t seem that inclusive or diverse to me…
Their personality isn’t more exaggerated than others, have you seen reaper? Literally the embodiment of a glorified goth kid.
That’s the funny thing though, they’re accepting so long as Blaire parrots their conservative views and doesn’t lean too much into speaking about acceptance. Don’t you think it’s strange that she rarely makes videos about acceptance and mostly creates cringe compilations? She’s not interested in achieving equality or acceptance.
She’s just a pick-me.
If they’re under 21, and their channels are very small and say dumb cringe things. I don’t see the harm in letting them be. However, sending floods of harassment to their channels by featuring these people in her videos, that on the other hand is an issue.
“Young adults” most of them still have face acne.
Have we really reached a point where we refuse to leave people alone when they’re channel is very very very small and say dumb things? Must we feature them in videos that will receive thousands of views and mock them on the basis of their appearance, lack of passing, or cringe opinions?
Annoyance should just be left alone as it poses no harm, if you think people saying dumb stuff in their very small social circle is the same as very popular YouTubers sending a massive wave of harassment to these people… I just don’t know what to say…
If someone ragebaiting on the internet is all it takes to ‘make an enemy out of an ally’… they were probably never an ‘ally’ to begin with.
Don’t take the bait.
As for the squabbling that breaks out over every even remotely rainbow-adjacent post around here: you’re all giving Blizz hundreds of thousands of dollars of free advertising. Especially the people against it.
Seriously, they rely on people becoming ‘enraged’ about it on social media because whilst some people are getting their feelings hurt over rainbow sidewalks and confetti on a single map: Blizzard are getting their name and their product (overwatch) spread about the internet for free.
oh come on you know that i know that’s not ever possible to achieve 100% no prejudice against us or any other group. that’s naive thinking and it sadly, that will never be achievable. maybe wrong choice of words but the point im trying to make is we have it so much better in our lives, made it so far, and I believe true acceptance is when people allow you to live your own lives and many people share that sentiment. When people are neutral about it and straight people have the idea, “that’s not my lifestyle but you do you and we’re good,” then that’s fine. Any normal sane person lets other’s do their thing and they do their thing. Yes i know prejudice happens but it’s such a small minority that the problem here is often brought up to lengths as if it’s a “huge major problem” here when that’s not the case.
however im only speaking for America at least, and i know some other countries aren’t fond with people being gay. if you’re in a country that’s actively against gays having rights or living well in life, then i apologize. if you want to talk about fighting for equality in those countries that will actively stone you for just being gay for example, then we can talk and I’m all for it supporting it. however, my biggest problem with the OP for is fighting for a “problem” that does nothing but make people more annoyed and antagonistic against us.
” in which case the LGBT community’s most important month will just be used by people who don’t care, for their own personal benefit.
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