Yeah Iâm really whatever about the future of Overwatch in terms of LGBT characters. With that said my last hope is that Vincent gets more lore, as well as Emily and Tracer. You got all these LGBT characters, now do something good with them.
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Iâm trying to create my own character right now but Iâve always wanted to see a southeast Asian character. Please Overwatch. Even the fanmade concept of the Thai girl w/ beta fish would be good too.
https://twitter.com/brenden_seng/status/1096466766266392576
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I noticed that they happened to make both poster stars of the game LGBTâŚOdd considering a lot of other heroes had a way better chance imo of being LGBT (Lucio, Hanzo, Moira) To me, that just seemed like it was clearly for advertisement and staged. Not saying Soldier 76 canât be gay, I just think most never saw it coming since there were no hints or anything. (I am sorry but that Christmas picture? He clearly was NOT young there as he had white hair and bangs and young Jack has blonde hair and no bangs) and that is what is odd to me at least. Blizz at this point does NOT care imo (Not the devs, they may care, but the ones that run the place? Pfft multi mliiionaires that only worry about more money and most likely telling the devs what to do in the end with their game. I wouldnât be surprised if it was them saying to the devs working on OW to make the other poster star the LGBT hero) They see this as an opportunist move to attract the LGBT crowd. They want something outta of it if they will do it clearly since they canât afford bad publicity.
I want more LGBT heroes too but this looks nothing more than staged for the sake of trying to make the game bigger clearly. Itâs all a sham with this and they are using the LGBT crowd as bait. Obviously they will take it, but sadly, I donât see another LGBT hero coming any time soon and if so? I will be majorly surprised if it has NOTHING to do with promoting the game. I donât like greedy corporate but that is what we are dealing with here. Money first, everything else later. Itâs a real shame. I am glad that we got another LGBT hero, I just feel this was all a set up though with Soldier.
I think the biggest problem about this whole thing is that lore is: 1) slow 2) difficult to follow.
People have a hard time grasping what is going on, what has already happened, where to find cumulative information all at once, the timeline is confusing and updates are so slow that an average consumer canât adequately understand which points are important and which are not.
Then we get these LGBT reveals and we have to spend more time explaining the basics of the setting than we can spend on actual characters. So it all feels meaningless. Like, my biggest issue with Bastet is that it shouldâve followed Reflections in a month, not two years. Bastet shouldâve literally been out in January 2017, a month after Reflections, to follow up on not just Soldier being gay, but the whole plot all-together.
As much as I often react harshly to people not understanding Bastet, Iâm not surprised as the whole story definitely feels out of place as it follows events from 2 years ago and we have no idea on what the current timeline is. As in, when are Soldier and Ana doing their thing in relation to other heroes doing their things (which we donât even know anything about). For example, whatâs the timeline relation between Bastet and Reunion? I canât tell. Iâd have to go deep into exploration of lore to find out, and Iâm heavily invested in lore and use it regularly for a gigantic fanfic. If those who are invested have a hard time following it, how can I expect a more casual fan to understand the meaning of certain reveals and information?
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Yeah that Christmas comic with the picture, that was older Jack with a younger guy. It couldâve been his son⌠I donât believe for a MINUTE that Jack was the one who was always meant to be gay, outside of that one Evel Knievel quote he says being changed to not be about chicks digging scars.
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Oh yeah I forgot. Not everyone has the energy to look for lore information from tweets or examine maps that have super vague hints.
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Exactly. like, I am looking at it again and that pic is clearly not a young Jack. Not saying itâs his son or whatever, but to me, it seems like they took upon that to act and say, ok, letâs make it him since we got him in that pic and we can go as far back as to say âSee? There was proof! You just didnât see itâ as a cover for them. Now, if he was intended to make Jack gay, then why change him to being younger and not use him like in that pic? To me, that is odd.
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No way is that the same picâŚ
Yeah, that vague picture in Reflections is really way too vague. Likely a placeholder. I wonât go as far as to say they didnât plan it, but they definitely didnât plan it as well as they shouldâve because that tiny photo wasnât made with an adequate attention to detail.
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That to me tells me something is up because there wouldnât need to be a reason to backtrack like that. It is not hard to make his hair blonde in that pic. Strange they chose to make him blonde now.
Yeah, I am not saying that he wasnât planned to be gay, itâs just with stuff like this? It makes it so suspicious and to me? My gut is saying that was a set up. I know, I have no evidence on this, but my gut says it aha Thatâs all I can say.
They couldâve at least given Jack a shorter hairstyle in the Bastet photo, I couldâve MAYBE bought that at least.
Though a thing to remember, Jack IS wearing the ââ Commando ââ outfit he wore in the army in that picture⌠thought it honestly looks like a son and his daddy going fishing to me.
But even him wearing his commando outfit in the picture isnât much, because in-game, Jack is wearing the commando outfit as his older self, instead of his younger self.
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Thereâs also a question of how much interaction there is between artists and writers and to which degree. We already know they admitted to making mistakes (that photo from Anaâs origin story where they messed up Torbâs arm) so it could just be a genuine mistake in direction of art in relation to story.
But yeah. Jack definitely has white hair on that photo and whatever the reason is for that, it doesnât work in their favour. Iâm inclined to say mistake or hastily drawn placeholder, but ultimately I canât know for sure.
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Yup. Same feeling here. I just feel he was used because he was the other major head of lore and to make him LGBT would be great reception. Donât know why it couldnât have been Hanzo, McCree or Lucio but hey, they have to have a motive I feel since again, they are a corporate that thrives on cash and their stocks are getting reeeeeal low.
And itâs not just the white hair, but itâs the hairline, the hair length and his face, which definitely looks that of an older gentlemanâs, at least compared to the person next to him.
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I donât know if his reveal really HELPED Blizzard though.
Whatâs the principal difference?
Yes true, and hereâs what gets me thinking. They just fired about 800 and I read from several sources that they were the âlower workersâ of the corp. So, if they had THAT much âlower workersâ then how much âmajor workersâ do they have? Are you telling me they have little to none? I doubt this. OW should have easily had 50 writers on their on. To think they are still looking for more is astonishing since I was told no one from OW was moved and all of a sudden a writerâs position opens. Itâs again, the major heads I feel telling them what to do, just like the decision being made to go mobile. Highly doubt it was there choice. In fact, I think it was a CEO that said all IPâs will go mobile iicr.
I feel bad that they have to be run like that. I feel their freedom to actually do what they want fam is very limited and that they donât have as much created freedom as you think 
I feel if they did, we would have a good amount of LGBT heroes by now since we would have lore but apparently, someone is either telling them to not hire more writers or they do have writers and somebody is telling them âNah, wait it out, nah wait it out. Nah, donât like it. Nah, it can wait till next yearâ
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Hanzo, with the way his hair is and such and the piercings (mostly used in LGBT culture though anybody can have them, just are more prominent there from my observation), imo, can fit someone of LGBT standards as it looks like a way for him to break away from traditions and to âbe who he wants to beâ Hanzo gives me the feel of that he doesnât want this life. He clearly didnât want to kill his brother and Hanzo now left the clan. You can see he wants to be himself just from the way he is in the relfections skin. He went from âStrictâ tradition to âHair cut and percingsâ very big change.
Lucio always says âPeople are free to live as they chooseâ showing he could be a guy that advocates freedom for anything or could easily fit right in with the LGBT culture. He also hangs with Tracer and Lena as proven by the dialogue during WW and he seems very close to Lena who is a lesbian as you know. Lucio being LGBT or gay would not surprise me in the thinnest.
McCree. Well, I see him more as being gay than Soldier. He could be bi at most I would say but I could be wrong. I personally find McCree to be bi or gay and considering he never dated Ashe or liked her, there is room to say âWelp, he is gayâ or whatever.
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Stereotypes are really boring, though. I think itâs good that Blizzard didnât go with them.
I mean you canât really say Hanzo, McCree or Lucio are stereotypically gay either.
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