Lets play a game

Ill be putting you into a scenario where 11 players have locked in their pick and ur the last one to pick

Rules are simple

1 - You are only allowed to choose 1 hero for each scenario
2 - Assume all players are of the same skill lvl and can all preform their heros functions to the basic level
3 - The map is Oasis garden unless stated other wise
4- None of ur teammates or enemies will be changing heros no matter how hard they get countered

Before we start because of the way OW works there is no right answer, But there is a best hero pick(If that makes sense), I would like to see the different thought process across the forums which hosts a wide variety of people spread across the ranks

Scenario 1 -
Your team has - Rein,Hog,Cass,you,Brig,Ana

Enemy team has - Rein,Ball,Reaper,Hanzo,Zen,Ana

What dps would you pick to ensure the easiest win?

Scenario 2 -
Your team has - Sigma,Ball,76,Tracer,Mercy,you

Enemy team has - Orisa,Hog,Ashe,torb,Bap,Brig

What support do you go to ensure the easiest win for your team?

Scenario 3 -
(On Volskaya)
Your team has - Dva,You,Widow,Ashe,Mercy,Bap

Enemy team has - Winston,Zarya,Echo,Doom,Ana,Zen

What tank do you go to ensure the easiest win for your team?

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Scenario 1: Doesn’t matter, we lose because I’m forced to play dps.

Scenario 2: Ana

Scenario 3: Doesn’t matter, we lose because I’m forced to play tank

Am I playing your game properly? :relaxed:

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Not exactly what I had in mind

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Scenario 1 - Mei
Scenario 2 - Ana
Scenario 3 - Hog

Most of the time ball is free ult charge when I hack him, so if I ignore the Hanzo it just means we all have better ult economy most of the time

Would go bap because our tankyness and damage is lesser, but seems like people will be spread out, so ana

If we end up needing MORE damage I’d go zen or Lucio despite the low heals

I suck at tank I can’t lul

Most of the times I’d go sigma anyway, with possibly of Zarya to peel against their doom

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Scenario 1:
Echo. For the first time in years, the enemy team does not have a hitscan. Truly a miracle indeed.

Scenario 2:
Ana. Some parts of our team is going to dive in while some others stay back. The team will need a huge amount of healing since the Mercy will most likely have to pocket the Soldier 24/7.

Scenario 3:
Roadhog. Their team is clearly focused on dive.

Echo. Brig healing should keep you up, and gl to their Hanzo trying to snipe you out of the sky. Plus, you can copy Rein or Reaper for very effective ults.

Baptiste and play closely with your Sigma. Ball and Tracer should be relatively self sufficient and your Mercy should pocket the 76. Meanwhile, you have immo for the hog hooks and can zone Orisa ult with your window.

That’s a tough one. I’d go with Winston but Ana/Zen screws you over so hard. Maybe Rein and hard shield bot on point since the enemy has a lot of poke. Basically just brute force them off the point.

Scenario 1 - Sombrero hack Rein for Mcmeme free 6kill ult ^^
Scenario 2 - Ana
Scenario 3 - It depends on whether we are attacking or defending [Ball on atack - 2CP like chaos]. Deff - Probably Rein.

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well with my limited hero pool ill probably go…

scenario 1 - soldier 76
scenario 2 - ana
scenario 3 - rein (heh i only play d.va or rein as tank)

seriously tho i usually just play quick play games and just pick whatever comes to my whim… maybe if i see the comp later in the match then i might think about switching… usually its too late and i do it next round or too late in the match

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Starting with a hard one ha?
Ball is countered by my hog+Brig,
Reaper by cass+Brig.
Rein is a mirror so Zen & Hanzo are my biggest problem so far.

it seems my team would struggle a lot with their poke damage overall so I need to go for something that can deny it pretty effectively…

Since I can’t over-damage Hanzo-Zen without something like Bastion (which would struggle here) I would go for a flanker to take care of their back lines while my team acts as a distraction.

However if I go alone I need more survivability so Tracer would fit the most probably.

I mean, Taking Hanzo as well might work too in term of damage + countering their back lines + synergizing better with my team but it would mean we can’t let Reaper come too close to the shield as it would melt it completely.

It seems we have a lot of self healing characters and a split composition while enemies have a comp with pretty big heads.

So either Zen or Ana in order to reach these ranges. Probably Ana since Mercy-Zen is a pretty risky composition. And it can also take care of Hog & Brig which are a big problem here.

Who attacks who defends?

Either way, on attack I think I would probably go for ball there for the simple fact, their team is full of shield passers and destroyers with the exception of maybe Ana & Zarya.

So no shield tank would help a lot here… Not to mention my snipers require space and divers do the work really well.

Ball is also really useful there to pass the choke if they run no stuns D.va can’t swallow except for Doomfist.

On defense however it seems my back lines would struggle a lot with this composition so probably Zarya, it may not be the most defensive one but It’s pretty obvious winston+Echo+Doomfist are gonna focus one of my backlines using Zen’s discord and/or anti nade. Bubble has to be the best tool in this situation.

Really fun game, I enjoyed it a lot :slight_smile: Thanks for making this post!

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Scenario 1
Tracer

Scenario 2
Baptiste

Scenario 3
Rein

Scenario 1 - Sombra
Easily counter Ball and Zen. Can be kinda tricky because there’s a Hanzo but that’s what we have Hog for.

Scenario 2 - Ana
Literally no other best pick against Hog and Brig.

Scenario 3 - Reinhardt
This one is a bit difficult because you didn’t say which side my team is but I would pick Reinhardt still because a well placed Earthshatter will stop a push and capture the point easily.

LMAO… looks about right to me.

Torb, Torb, and Torb.

It was actually OQ this entire time.

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This was a bit off a trick question, Mei actually wont be the best pick here becuase well, ur team isnt playing rush.

Ana isnt a bad choice but ur team has alot of self sustain so why not go for zen?

Besides Rein, hog might be the worst pick here, ur hooks are getting denied and ur getting discorded and antied with very little u can do

Echo isnt a bad pick here, Shes not the best imo because discord will clip ur wings but shes defo top 3 here

Ana isnt a bad choice but ur team has alot of self sustain so why not go for zen?

Besides Rein, hog might be the worst pick here, ur hooks are getting denied and ur getting discorded and antied with very little u can do, You looked at the dive oriented tanks without taking into account the enemy backline

Echo isnt a bad pick here, Shes not the best imo because discord will clip ur wings but shes defo top 3 here

You have self sufficient tanks. Wont zen be a better choice? Bap aint bad but hes not the best imo

You actually might be better off going winston. I mean ur shield bot strat might stall time on defense but theres very little u can do on offense, Why not go ball or sig?

Ur team has alot of self sustain. why not go for the zen?

You were spot on with the ball pick but you are gonna struggle alot on defense as rein. The enemy team is running 4 counters you cant even touch. Sure youll get ur free shatter but will the round last long enough for you to actually get it?

76 isnt a bad pick, but let me remind you of the zen that has almost no1 to peel for him. Wont tracer be a better pick here?

Your team has alot of self sustain. wont zen be a better pick here?

Rein is actually one of the worst picks here. The enemy team is running 4 counters that you can do very little against.

That is actually my pick here. Im suprised that no one else mentioned it considering I left the enemy backline pretty much defenseless on purpose

Zen is also my pick here. Ana would work but she wont be the best pick considering the amount of self sustain ur team has.

Ball is also my pick here. He would acctually work better on defense. The key to playing the double sniper ball is to not let the enemy team set up their backline in a favorable position. you piledriving their backline either forces out bubble which in turn makes the enemy team wait. Or gets one of their supports a one way ticket to spawn

Considering the amount of self sustain ur team has wouldn’t bap be a better pick?

Running rein against 4 of his counters wouldn’t really end well for you.

Allow me to introduce you to zen, who can destroy torb turret and shutdown both tanks.

Rein wouldnt really work well. Granted youll get that one free shatter everynow and then, But how often will you be able to actually hit more than 1 person and not to mention charging it against that comp would be a nightmare

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Sure, that’s always a possibility but discord tends to be focused more on tanks, especially Rein (who then is more likely to shield while discorded) and Hog (which combined with anti means he’s dead in less than a second). I’d argue that discord is really good on Pharah because her movement is stiffer, while Echo has more fluid motions and can start and stop her descents with greater control, enabling her to more easily dodge shots and hide away to remove discord.

Honestly, I don’t think so. Sigma vs this composition is going to get run over pretty quickly if he doesn’t have constant support. The rest of your team has insane mobility, while Sigma has very little of it. If you play Zen, it’ll be better for focusing down the tanks and Torb, but now you have two very distinct targets that won’t be able to escape once the Sigma shield breaks (and it will break almost instantly from that amount of damage). Plus, you have Torb, Ashe, and Brig to counter your Ball/Tracer dives, which means your Sigma is going to be under more pressure.

Honestly, Ball is probably your best bet out of the available tanks, but I’m going to assume the average player isn’t good enough to play Ball effectively, so I tend to just rule it out as a playable character. I think Sig will get destroyed by Zarya/Echo/Doom thanks to beams and punches too easily.

Frankly, I think most of the tanks work on defense cause it’s Volksaya, but I was thinking about the attack to begin with. So yeah if you can’t play Ball, you’ll have to play Winston very carefully or go Rein and run up the stairs as fast as possible and clear the high ground of the enemy supports, as those are the biggest threats to you.

Given the map and the team comps, I think it’s basically a ‘lost on the character select screen’ scenario unless your DPS just super hard diff.

Rein is my best tank outside dva

Wrong person i replied to, sorry

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That’s also something to keep in mind. Different players are good at different heroes. I certainly can’t play Ball to save my life…

The thing with zen V echo matchup is that echo is inherently at a disadvantage. While yes discord will be on the tanks 80% of the time, You gotta realize thet ur zens biggest threat, so 9/10 discord will be put on you the second you fly anywhere near beam range. But still echo is not a bad pick. Personally id argue that tracer or sombra would be better but it aint a bad pick what so ever

I made the enemy team backline really hard to kill on purpose. The enemy team is running full poke while urs is running poke/dive.

Thing is 76&mercy combo should put enough pressure the enemy tanks to not get too close to the sigma without feeling alot of pain.

Why zen would work better imo is cause discord can help ur dive portion and poke portion at the same time.

I mean one of the rules was assuming that everyone is good enough to play the hero to atleast the basics. Which includes you

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