Aye its really unacceptable.
On one hand we are told only win/loss matters.
The other hand ppl are saying yeah because you won over ppl weaker than you are. But then thats not what we can control.
I think they can consider to use the LoL type of ranking method instead. Its kinda straight forward.
So you just want the matchmaker to always find ALL players of equal skill. Yeah, that WOULD be nice, but not realistic.
The longer it takes to find a match, the more divation you will have in ranks. Or, you could have it be like OW1, and wait 15 minutes for each match, if you would prefer that? I wouldn’t.
I’m saying don’t put me in a game where everyone is less than me if i’m not gonna get rewarded if i win.
I don’t even think the whole ‘‘equal skill’’ thing is good either. That like one of the reasons why i disliked ranked modes in most games. Like if i’m better than the rank i currently in why do you even put me against players that are equal to my skill level? What’s the point of ranks then? I’d understand if it was like the new system on apex where there wouldn’t be any rank cap and if you had better MMR than your rank you’d get extra boost on your points.
Well that means it’s NOT working actually. If it was based on performance i’d get it but devs themselves said performance doesn’t matter.
I also don’t throw the games or go afk/leave. Unlike some of my teammates.
And where did they say that?
when your rank is adjusted it will tell you how u performed compared to the rest.
If they didn’t do it on individual performance I would not climb having a double negative winrate and you should climb.
People complain to much not realizing the only consistent in every game is you… If your going to lose at least make sure your the best of all other losers.
On twitter one of the devs said it. Just check the topics on MM and you’ll probably find it.
It doesn’t tell you how you performed. It just tells you how high you are in the division. Basically like the old SR system but instead some weird percentage compared to other players. In other words : how close you are to next division
And i didn’t do bad on like %90 of my games. Very rare occurences where i gone negative because of an extremely one sided stomp and so on.
You act like i throw all my games dude. Relax
Im sure its been said-
But wed have to see the other games prior to these 5.
Your rank updates after 15 losses or 5 wins. Did you lose 10 games before these 5, as an example.
Those losses, depending on how the teams were matched up, can matter more than the wins when it comes to influencing your update.
You mean the one where the dev says your rank is 1:1 to your MMR? Geus what influences your MMR…
You do 1 damage and you get an elim in this game, going positive on elims means nothing, again you are getting compared to other players, not just the ones in your game.
The amount of people I see throwing or stop trying when they feel they are losing, or picking a hero just to ego and solo away then crying I CANT CLIMB is insane, even see friends doing it who where GM and now stuck in masters and they simply do not get even when you lose you can win something.
No , i said devs said performance doesn’t matter on ranking up. As easy as that.
And i said i didn’t do bad. Also heroes you play matter too. You can’t blame widowmaker or sombra for not having too much damage.
I do understand what you’re trying to say but i don’t throw my games. I don’t take it seriously that much as in i don’t really care if i’m ranking up or not but i do try because i respect the fact that it’s ranked and other people exist. Only difference you’ll see would be me playing off meta heroes.
Past placements affecting your next even if you go positive doesn’t make sense. If that was the case they’d just rank me down on my previous placements etc.
To add to that i don’t think i’ve strayed too far of being close to %50 WR. You know … The forced %50 WR everybody talks about.
Here you go buddy, this is from a dev post on these forums not too long ago:
“Q: So you don’t take the number of eliminations, damage dealt, healing provided, or any other scoreboard stats to adjust my MMR after each match?
A: In Overwatch 2, your MMR adjustment after every match is not impacted by your performance in each match (regardless of your skill tier). This is for a few reasons. We don’t want players to be focused on doing things other than trying to focus on the objectives and win the match. Dealing the most damage or getting kills won’t help your team if your actions don’t help them push the payload or capture a control point. Also, for some heroes, especially those in the support role, it can be challenging to determine if the numbers they produce reflect their skill.”
I saw the tweet and it says your rank is 1:1 of your MMR… MMR is adjusted by your performance.
If you claim its not the case why are you not going up with a positive winrate? Could it just be your not as good as you think yourself to be? How can u improve if you wont even realize the only consistency in your games is you yourself.
Like at least now if you lose you can still climb… Like what rank do you even think u deserve?
I literally just quoted a dev saying that it’s not.
Not sure. I do at least not think that i’m GM or T500 that’s for sure. But i DID play on diamond rank as my highest and did just fine there. My goal also was to hit diamond aswell. I don’t aim for too high tbh.
“Your rank is literally 1:1 with your real MMR tho”
Did you remove it because it did say its 1:1? I have the tweet aswel you know.
He also said:
“Yeah that’s true: your rank will reflect your MMR, but your MMR won’t reflect your true skill until you’ve played more.”
Like to me it seems like people hate this system because it lays majority of the blame with yourselves.
I removed it because that was not in reference to what I was talking about.
What does your MMR being on point with your rank have to do with personal performance? They LITERALLY STATED, personal performance does not affect your MMR. Aka, your rank.
Imagine it being 2023 and you’re still playing Overwatch competitive.
lol hilarious.
He says the complete opposite… Like what?
All he means with play more is that is has more data of you, so again you ruin that performance stat if you start throwing.
So if you played enough your skill will match your MMR and your rank will be 1:1 with your MMR… How do you take this as its not based on your performance?
Your MMR is almost never 1:1 with your rank. The MMR you’re talking about is a secret thing on pretty much every game out there. The game basically uses SBMM while matching you INSIDE your rank. Which i said before is a thing i hate on pretty much a lot of the games with ranked modes.
Games recently did start ditching that system though.
Rainbow Six reworked their ranked system so there is no rank cap and it matches you with your MMR. You get a boost if your MMR is high (somewhat. not really sure about how R6’s system works tbh)
Apex reworked their ranked system so if your MMR becomes good you get bonus points boosting you on your way to ranking up. There is also no rank cap there i believe. They do also match you based on your MMR.
Let’s just hope more games start being like this. I believe that makes the ‘‘ranked’’ mode actually ranked AND makes ranks actually matter.
Either you have a very poor grasp of the english language, or you don’t know what he is saying.
MMR and personal performance have NO RELATION. In OW1, they had something called PBSR, which was personal based SR, for players under diamond skill rank. They got rid of that in OW2.
I’m not sure what you are not understanding about this.
Like keep trying to find ways to cope and lay the blame anywhere but you, maybe if you change your mindset you will actually climb.
I feel like only reason u call it broken is because its confronting u with your own performance which conflicts with your believe of what your skill is.
Good luck climbing!
Ciao
Dude i say it’s broken because I RANKED DOWN WITH POSITIVE WR. Like at what part do you not understand? At what point a game started punishing you for WINNING?