junkrat viable is horrible for the game
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What well-thought and insightful commentary! Pray tell, what is your reasoning behind this? Let me guess: “AlL hE dOEs Is SpAm!”
there isn’t a middle ground with him
he’s either broken or useless
i would much rather have him useless than broken
all it takes is 1 teammate feeding him and you lose the game because you get riptired a zilion times
and yes, he’s a very low skill floor hero
And again, we ignore his skill ceiling. As much as I don’t want to assess some of your grievances in bad faith, but it seems some people’s criteria for Junk being broken is being viable. His perception as a low skill floor hero is not unwarranted, but past a certain skill thresholds his weaknesses really come to light. When people complain about hanzo, or widow or genji or mccree, you’re met with a flood of “git gud” or “just counter 4head” . But apparently being able to play around junkrat is just too much these days for Overwatch players. If people can’t dodge or avoid one of the slowest projectiles in the game that glows flipping red, I don’t know what to tell them.
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Let’s agree to disagree then, I just hope Junkrat get some more adjustment in the future and not taking a year.
8 months later: “Hey guys, blizzard here! We heard you on the junkrat buffs, so guess what? We gave him TWO STEEL TRAPS! Also, frag launcher now does 100 damage. You’re welcome!”
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in order for junkrat not to dominate at gold and lower, you need Gold and lower to open their eyes and not eat the slow moving death peas.
JR punishes lack of awareness.
Incorrect, at JR’s peak. he had #1 pickrate for less than 2 weeks.
without a nerf he dropped to #5 and stayed there until january when he got nerfed and dropped out of the top 10.
edit with proof:
Aug 29, 2017 - PATCH 1.14.1.2A was when JR got double mines.
JR #1 pickrate / winrate in GM: https://www.omnicmeta.com/blog/overwatch_hero_meta_report_pc_september_6_2017.html
JR #5 pickrate / winrate in GM:
https://www.omnicmeta.com/blog/overwatch_hero_meta_report_pc_september_20_2017.html
Honestly, the devs should never had nerfed Roadhog. Him a junk both punished lack of awareness, but people don’t like having that pointed out and so it got nerfed.
People used to have much better positioning. Now it’s all gone to hell.
they dont give a crap about junkrat
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Its map dependent. Some maps he is utterly useless.
Eichenwalde and anubis he is just pure cancer I am sorry. Junkrat still has his place right now you just cant run him 100 percent of the time like you did before.
again I am all for a buff on him as I play him quite often. but please let’s not returnj to season 7 status when literally
EVERY
SINGLE
GOLD
GAME
had him in it and I am sorry it got old with deaths that often felt totally random and cheap.
He is in a bad spot for sure and honestly I think this last buff was a net nerf I do actually agree with Chro on that one. But no more season 7 rat just deleting people left and right and rip tire every 30 seconds.
… I mean, hogs Hook was PRETTY broken. Or are you talking about a different change?
I’m guessing the damage change. IMO the only thing that needed fixing was the broken hit reg of hook. Chro brought up something interesting about pre nerf hog’s threatening presence being his way of making space. Once they took that away, now he’s just a spongy ultimate battery.
Tracer: " IM SICK OF WALKING INTO JUNKRAT GRENADES"
Junkrat: " … then dont?"
Tracer: " BLIZZARD! JUNKRAT IS BEING MEAN AND UNFAIR"
Junkrat: " What? I never Did Anyth…"
Blizzard: " Thats it, you hurt our precious child, You’re going in time out"
Junkrat: " WHAT!?"
Tracer: " >:P "
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It’s still not the cross section; it’s the surface area. The volume was reduced, but the surface area was also reduced
Sounds about right 
It’s only the front half of the surface area…
Which is really really close to a circle
It’s the full surface area. People walking into bombs from all sides was a thing.
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People are walking into bombs opposite of their velocity?
Not opposite, perpendicular.
tangential n-degrees. People can move faster than a grenade depending on its angle of ascent or descent or their abilities.
But also, in general collision can be checked by volume as well as intersection, so its not necessarily , a or b, its c, all of the above.
Though,to solidify the point of the importance of volume. You can collapse a manifold surface into near infinitely small volume aslong as it allows. Without the maximised volume of the spherical form it would lose out. So in this case, the volume is very important indeed.
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