Its time for hanzo to stop being a tankbuster

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With a question like that, I’m okay with it

They act as if their “Why?” didn’t have any snide in it

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I’d love to revert the speed in trade for -2 storm arrow nerf.

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Revert the storm arrow speed buff
Storm arrows can no longer do headshots
Revert arrow speed

Balanced hanzo

84

That’s still 475 damage in under 2s with primary+ storm arrow.

I’m not gucci with that. If Hanzo did 475 with multiple crits that be gucci, but it’s 475 with bodyshots, bodyshots a hamster on speed can hit because tanks are family-size.

85

Lol, reduce storm arrow to 45 damage, but give it a 3x critical.

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Here’s a crazy idea:

  • Storm Arrows damage reduced to 45
  • Storm Arrows capacity increased to 6
  • Storm Arrows cooldown lowered to 2 seconds and given a fancy ‘reload’ animation where Hanzo ‘recalls’ the arrows back to him
  • Hanzo’s existing primary fire is removed and Storm Arrows are now his primary weapon
  • Projectile speed increased to previous level
  • Lunge changed so it now resets when Hanzo touches the ground, similar to Genji’s double-jump. 5 second cooldown removed.

More arrows, but they’re faster and lower damage so corner peeking and spamming is less effective. They do lower damage so it makes Hanzo more of a mid-range hero. He has a consistent, effective escape. Weird ‘Sniper’ mechanic that has never worked removed entirely.

Also it solves the logical ‘problem’ of Hanzo having an unlimited number of arrows stored… somewhere.

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87

Here is the better solution:

Hanzo:

  • Removed from the game

:rofl:

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88

I would not hate that.

Still I’d rather take it down to 3 shots and revert the arrow speed.

89

Or how about Hanzo gets a 2.5x critical for all his attacks.

But 100 damage normal arrow, and 55 damage storm arrow.

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Could also be an option.

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Blizzard really likes to take FPS archetype characters and then give them abilities to counteract their weaknesses for no reason.

The shotgun guy has a ranged stun.
The revolver guy has a close stun.
The bow guy can instantly fire charged arrows rapidly.
The sniper lady can set traps to see flankers.

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I mean that’s fine, if they get other weaknesses.

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But they dont, and thats why hanzo, cree and widow are op every time they’re playable, because u either have to gut them or they’ll be broken.

At what point do u make a hero only good at what they do, while having actually glaring weaknesses that arent covered by cheesy abilities or bad map designs?

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Launch Ashe. For whatever it’s worth, the forums always seemed to be in very broad agreement that launch Ashe was incredibly well-balanced.

…which of course meant Blizz eventually buffed her later, because Blizz.

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Or just nerf storm arrows to 3 shots and buff arrow speed back up to compensate…

Hanzo is not a gruesome design that needs to be reworked (we do have our share of those), he’s just spiking a level of burst damage very easily…

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So nerf their antitank and buff their roll/lunge.

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imo no character who excels against squishies should also be good against tanks and vice versa

Storm Arrows, Fan the Hammer, the Echos death beam should not exist.

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Huh? Tank-buster?

Let’s check that math…

Hanzo vs. Orisa. No barriers.

Hanzo uses Storm Arrows, Orisa uses Fortify.

Hanzo’s arrows can’t critically hit, and are reduced 40%. So the damage dealt is 38x5 or 190.

Reaper shoots at Orisa doing 120 damage per shot. mitigated by Fortify so 67 damage per shot. So in one second, 134 damage. Multiply that by 4 seconds 536 damage.

So Reaper will kill faster than Hanzo would. And Hanzo is the tank-buster? Doesn’t make sense.

Let’s check barriers!

Hanzo does 125 damage per shot, 1.4 seconds per maximum charged arrow. Reaper does 120 damage per shot, 2 shots per seconds. So… 100 damage per second from Hanzo, and 192 damage per second from Reaper.

So Hanzo is not a barrier buster, as Reaper is certainly doing better.

So, again. Hanzo is not a tankbuster. Doesn’t make sense. Math does not check out. It’s clear as glass.

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…

I’m a Pharah main?

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Remove storm arrow and bring back faster projectile speed and scatter arrow. Hanzo was more balanced with this anyways ,and could contest bs like widow.