The quality of matches usually feels worse the lower you are because no one knows what they are doing. If you want better feeling matches get to a better rank
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Listen, Iâm not going to lie, this is not a foreign by any stretch of the imagination. I canât honestly believe youâre having a hard time grasping thisâŚ
My games, should look like Silver Border, Bronze/Silver Ranks.
In your scenario with a new account that places Diamond, you would be placed with other BRONZE BORDER(NEW) accounts that are Diamond rank.
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Genuinely, as I climbed things became more cohesive, albeit still chaotic. You do get more frustrated when you see people making basic mistakes like over-exposing themselves but once people get past the idea that they are invincible because of their rank you find more and more the higher you climb the more you can rely on people⌠The games get much better.
For personal perspective, Iâve been steady at 56% - 60% winrate for the predominance of my career.
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More importantly as well, people can be at ranks like silver/gold/plat or even bronze for drastically different reasons. They can have the aim of a god but be plat because they play like an idiot. While another player can know every detail about how the game functions and know the best decision to make in any situation but be silver because they canât aim well.
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That doesnât seem efficient at all as far as OW goes though. Why would we want that?
Iâll explain:
Would that not harm the pool of players of relevant rank to be picked from?
Would that not inherently make smurfing worse in other regards?
I just donât see a use in it. I donât see how that would stabilize things.
Border means virtually nothing in OW aside from time spent playing⌠I donât see the value in that. It means almost nothing. It has less relevance than SR itself does.
If anything your que time would go through the roof just to be matched with the same stuff youâre experiencing now.
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But itâs not just bronze. This is pretty much the same advice better players will give you to climb out of any rank. The game is presented as a team game when it really isnât, except maybe near the top level where everyone else is already good.
Itâs especially the case for solo queuers because your team is always going to be random. When you have the better team it will be enough to simply support them but when you donât you have to somehow do more or else you will be stuck with a 50% win rate. And you never know what kind of team you will get in comp. Itâs not consistent at all, especially with handicapping.
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Exactly. Because the system in inherently flawed by starting people at Gold. The only way to reverse this is to implement time played into the match maker.
It will make for higher quality games because it prevents people from starting new account and playing with people that have established accounts.
This is not a new concept by any means. 99% of other games operate this way. Because it creates a more harmonious environment.
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Once you climb a bit more, you can start supporting your team in different ways than just straight up killing the enemy team. People will actually clean up after a good antinade, you can pocket a good player, nano will be worthwhile, etc. When youâre bronze you have to do everything.
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why donât you solo que and climb now with the amount of throwers/quitters ? Can you prove that?
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This is not a crack on anyone.
Everyone saying get good, youâre just hard stuck, mad because you canât climbâŚ
Is someone thatâs not worried about climbing and more worried about the quality of the time being put into the game a foreign concept?
I do not aspire to get out of Bronze or Silver. I want a functioning ladder and balanced match making. I donât care if that comes in the form of Bronze. It makes for a better experience.
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Stop caring about climbing. No one good is at high ranks anyway. They think theyâre good, cause they think itâs about winning. Winning doesnât define you or make you good. You donât get good by winning.
Come down to bronze with us and enjoy faster queues, less toxicity, and less meta. Boycott their 4-year old no-reset season, and start the next part of your Overwatch journey with those who figured out that, unless youâre getting paid to play, rank doesnât matter one bit.
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Youâre describing a broken game.
After all this I feel like it is more you perceiving OW to be a different kind of game than it is.
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Iâm not necessarily disagreeing with you. I agree with matchmaker being garbage and that there are tons of issues with this game. There are a ton of things wrong with this game, including balancing and smurfing and cheating. But whatever, itâs a dying game. I just wanted to tell you how to climb because the game does get much better once youâre at least gold in my opinion. Sure gold is still pretty bad and suffers from a lot of problems that also exist in bronze and silver, but it is not nearly as bad if youâre looking for a fair experience.
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In plat sometimes they will clean up other times I can anti their whole team multiple times in the fight and still nobody dies. Sometimes you donât have a good player to pocket because the MMR decided it was your turn to be the only decent player on your team. Sometimes your good player is the diamond Mercy in a duo with the gold dps. Iâve definitely had games in gold and plat where it felt like I had to do everything in order to get the win. From what I hear itâs the same in diamond/master but Iâm not good enough at the game yet to know. In those ranks if I get a worse team I just lose.
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I did it several times in past, should i create new alt place low and prove it again? I dont see a point. Many people is constantly showing how is climbing possible, just go watch some streams or youtube.
We get it. The problem is that you, and plenty of others, doing that hurts the experience of lower level players, thus the entire ladder is damaged.
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Throw a few matches then play seriously for easy wins thatâs how it always have been working.
Sometimes you lost games even if you ended 50-2 , 40k damage etc because the MMR gives you teamamtes with 20% win rate with their respective characters, like Reddit lucio on defense or a one trick mercy that just in your match queue for a Tank and goes Reinhart vs a real plat/diamond reinhart.
In order to fix this when you feel like no matter what you try or do , just queue for a match, throw it ( donât go afk just dunno pick junkrat and throw grenades from the roof etc but be sure to end with 0 kill sor deaths ) next game the MMR will pick your miserable loss and put you with good people vs trash.
I climb out of bronze as mercy this game is fine if you got the skill.
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I see the opâs point.
Bronze is straight garbage as a main tank or passive support.
As support Iâll frag out with Lucio or Moira. As dps Iâll hit silver plus no problem with Torb or Junkrat. Or play Mei. Sheâs utterly broken good low sr.
But main rank. Wow. Just wow⌠75% of bronze support players are just utterly worthless. Theyâll be playing as crap dps, wildly out of position and ignore you if you ask for heals.
And dps⌠Omfg. Thereâs several dps heroes with such low skill floors that you can almost guarantee value no matter how terrible you are. Junkrat, Mei, Reaper, TorbâŚ
If enemy dos are picking those heroes and your dps are Genji and McCree, youâre in trouble.
Iâm my experience games are a lot better from 1700 sr plus. People make errors, but theyâre not utterly piss poor at their roles.
Iâd advise op to climb to at least mid silver for quite good games.
My top strat is to learn Zarya. Won my first game with her tonight. Went 9-3 kd and was circa 48% average energy across the match. Cheered me up two leaver losses and a thrower loss.
Iâve noticed a lot of bronze players are like toddlers. If they donât see you for more than 3 seconds, they think you donât exist. So to this end Iâll play her as in and out depending on shield, then run for health packs if Iâm low.
But, agree with op, bronze comp is garbage. Unless youâre fragging out.