It seems the creators discord were the devs chat with streamer youtubers seem to be behind all the changes

It just lacks rational people up in there, like did you ever see quakedon or hammond the hammond main complain about sombra being a counter? Absolutely not. Even though she shuts down doom and hammond hardly, much much more than brig counters genji.

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Or at the very least, there’s not a variety of poor judgement.
Just the same bad opinion from multiple people.

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Thing is, they’re tank players and honestly, DPS is the most popular role therefore it stands that it’s what would attract most people to the game. I’ve said a lot, they’re balancing for views not players that’s why a lot of support and tank players I know have just dropped this game. They want their flashy DPS poster characters on top, alongside Ana and Winston who are the only acceptable heroes in the other classes.

What annoys me most though is people always go on about low risk character should have low reward. With Genji buffs, I feel he’s definitely gotten very low risk but still gets massive reward. He needed some changes but 4 buffs in one is ridiculous.

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I’m a semi-casual, and I personally care about balance because if a hero I play is bad enough to be unfun, I want them to be buffed into fun-territory. (Or at least feeling like I’m making an impact.)
I also don’t like having people screech at me for playing a hero who is fun to me but unviable.

at least youre semi-casual but im talking about the people who literally say the word “casual”

Plus mister samito now thinks that genji went from a d to c tier character. He’s just biased.

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Idk, it may be the same as my opinion or maybe just because debating balance is something to do when you can’t be actually playing the game.

Blizz pls don’t listen to Jokemito(not the person).

https://youtu.be/R9Vn8Fnz8Wk?t=6956

if this get my lvl3 removed well I deserve it and …

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Pretty much, people complain about Moira ‘reward to skill’ ratio but it’s okay for Ana to be the queen bee cause of how much she gets rewarded for her skill and will get lynched for even saying she might need a nerf over it.

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None of this of course applies to Reinhardt. Because no other tank needs game sense or anticipation apparently.

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reinhardt also doesnt have a 40% damage reduction ability btw so he cant defend himself if he gets caught out in the open with shield down plus him and winston are more engaging to play than orisa or sigma ever will be

Dude, those buffs still won’t help Genji players’ biggest problem: feeding in the enemy backline

I don’t know his exact opinions and rather not care as much.
I did get that he wants a more skilled version of the overwatch, however the deflect change only affects the more mechanically intensive supports making them way weaker in 1v1 situations. That shouldn’t be the case and I don’t know even if that guy wants it.
However saying that a consistent top500 is a bad player dunno the person who believes it needs some checks with his doctor or w/e :grin:

if this is true (not saying it is) then the damage is already done.

they are looking into Moira who is classed as a “troll pick” at the highest ranks. Moira players are literally constantly flamed, avoided, and even punished by automated system for playing her.

A certain person in creator discord are being dishonest about Moira about her being OP. but we saw him post a screenshot about Moira, and he got excited. But the changes to her orb weren’t as hyped as he made it out to be, meaning he knows very little himself.

If they were really balancing based on Master/GM they wouldn’t even be looking to nerf Moira at all.

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that discord has a LOT less ‘power’ than what you think it does

Confirmed by someone I know who is in the discord. So I don’t think they have much say in it, I think a certain damage orb activist wants to scare y’all.

Did you not see me use the word fundamental ?

Overwatch as a professional esport or a casual’s game has the same fundamentals. These youtubers and pro players know them the best. Thus, they are the best players for giving advice.

Yes they are just people, but they are people with the most valuable experience. You don’t hire someone who doesn’t know the basics of finance for the executive board of a company. The masses may consume the product, but you don’t hire them to make the financial decisions. Likewise, the gold/plat/diamond players may play the game, but you don’t use their experience to make balancing decisions.

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he’s gotten very low risk.

He may (keyword may) be busted, but Genji is still a character that requires a massive investment in order to reap any sort of reward

Wow, you’re in dev meetings now? You should inform the rest of us what’s going on.

It’s a shame then that most of the playerbase aren’t pro players, and their game experience is just as important as the pros, and removing options from them by balancing them only for the top is a surefire way to keep a happy healthy playerbase

Oh and meanwhile all those “pros” jump ship as soon as something new comes up anyways, so they ruin the game for the vast majority of players, and then go off to the next hottest game

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the person who knows how the game works at its most fundamental level are the dev lol

Do you think the inventor of chess knew all the strategies when he invented the game?