Is this user cheating? or am i overthinking this?

Was trying DPS.

Code: D3W7F7
Player: Enemy Team’s “Echo”

This echo has time to time, very weird aim, like he is shaking the screen on purpose, at times where its not needed, especially when you get close to this user.

It’s so uncanny.

What do you guys think? is this user cheating?

Other notes:

  • They were solo queue (tested by trying to invite them in after match)
  • Rank Gold 3 to Gold 1
  • I am solo queue
    They are endorsement 3, private profile (as always)

I could really use some fresh set of eyes on this one.

I’ll check it out when I get home :slight_smile:

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its a feature of the game its not a hack…

Nothing on this screams cheater. I saw the screen shaking you were talking about and when you slow it down, it’s just someone struggling to keep their crosshairs on someone, likely because of panic.

Most of their play was just decent gamesense/awareness. Your widow/ashe kept going to the same spot for the first half, footsteps are really loud so they could easily hear people, or they could outright see the people and knew they were there and had some sense off target priority

None of these really have any meaning or change anything

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That’s a micro gesture when tracking. Everyone has a different expression

It could be a damaged replay, but this is not the case

Although, I will say she is Walling.

Not only did a few gestures at the very start of the match, but at 5.52 she is looking directly to Widow before picking that corner

And before this, I was actually thinking: that’s just me. This Echo has very good resources economy and overall gamesense for the rank.
Like, she is keeping her distance from enemies; or not going for flanks like the Assassination Echo type of gameplay. But that could be just a different Style. Because of map, comp; the player? Could be anything

Even the use of Beam is very tight. And that’s what it got me thinking again about wallhacking.

She is not pressing the attack, or going for “Plays”, in order to make full use of her kit.
Same concept applies to Flying. She is not flying. In a map like Hollywood xD

And then 5.52 came up. And yeah, that explains why she is so precise, and with such little exposure

By the way, she is looking at Bastion before that mark.
Just standing at respawn? xD

I’m not gonna check it all over again, but I’ll finish it and update this post if I see anything new

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Yeah, she is walling

6.22
Right after the Shatter and the Weaver Platform, wich was awesome, she begins to flank towards the stairs, Without looking at the hallway that leads to the respawn? Like she just looks directly to Rein at respawn. And this is not a stomping the ground Reinhardt. This guy is just AFK two buildings up front xD

6.52
Again, its tracking the Widow.
Not the door where she might show up; but a concrete wall in small room

Oh yeah, most positive Wall-hacking ever at 7.10
Please, don’t take this as an offense, but no Gold has ever went directly to that Mega health pack.
Matter of fact, I have never seen a single player using that Mega x :joy:

And this is what Wallhacks do basically. They display all information from elements that exist as relevant in the map.
Players, Health Bars, Pick Up items, Deployables such as Turrents, Portals, etc

And we all develop a sense of Space after so many hours. Like, where should I find a Health pack.
But this guy right here just made a 180 and went for that Mega. Without even line of sight to it. It was around the corner bellow that small shop.

12.08
Can’t avoid looking at tracer

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Its not a feature to have weird shaky aim during the time the enemy shakes or moves too fast in close range.

Noted. TY

TY for the detailed assessment.
There were moments where I also felt - while i have headphones, their movement is more based off visuals they should not have access to and not sound.


Either way, I reported them and got a thank you for reporting next day, so probably something sus was going on with them.

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They weren’t cheating lmfao the other guy was full of it

This is just average Gold Echo gameplay

Again, I will let you make your own conclusions.

I reported the user, got a thank you for reporting next day for it.

Will let the system figure out if someone is cheating or not.

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The devs ban for cheating in waves, just saying. Either you reported someone else for chat abuse and that was the thank you message, or the messages genuinely mean nothing because I know for a fact that cheaters won’t get banned off of reports before a ban wave.

The reason the devs do it like this is because it makes it harder for cheat devs to figure out what part of their script got caught and change it to get around the system again. If they banned right after reviewing reports, it’d make it too obvious and the cheat devs would just slightly rework the script again to get around the anti cheat.

I’m not saying this to be a douche, btw, and I do appreciate that you’re not hard set on “noooo they have to be a cheaterrrrr,” I just want you (and everyone who reads this) to understand how the system actually works