genuine discussion please
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overall 1.5% pickrate and 50.28% win rate. there are 13 characters with lower win rates. so id say her stats overall are ok. maybe her winrate is all from smurfs though as she seems to get hard countered by aim the higher the elo.
I would say she is one of them. She needs help. She doesn’t have much defense alone in the sky away from her tanks or healers as it is. The roster that can counter her has grown, meanwhile the roster that can help her has been reduced in effectiveness.
Pharah at this stage is more or less relying on the enemy DPS to either not play hitscan, or have terrible aim. I think that’s poor design.
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The best buff she could receive would be deleteing snipers oneshots.
Or giving her an hability to put herself some kind of body shield or armor like doomfist.
I’d say no. She is preety bad but on some maps she can break LoS or flank the hitscans.
Heros like Reaper or Brig just can’t get into their effective range (unless Brig is in GOATs (which no one plays any more)).
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No shes far from it, shes just more situational now. Still dominates like half the roster but unfortunately gets shutdown by any half decent hitscans. On console shes still extemely good but too reliant on mercy
Pharah does not have the lowest win rate in any rank, so no she is not the worst hero in the game.
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She is D-tier.
But Doomfist can be worse.
At least a bad Pharah can deal damage with her spam.
A bad Doomfist just feed.
She has a few maps where she is relatively good like Lijang with bridges or Paris with very specific high tier strats, but outside those: Probably yes
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She’s a classic case of another character with a mobility mechanic that the rest of the roster lacks which is problematic - like Genji’s double-jump, wall-climbing he shares with Hanzo, and Tracer’s blinks to name a few. So we have a flyer against mostly surface locked characters.
I personally would rework her so that she has more armor, but at the same time she must charge her shots while aiming to power up… this stops the 4-round spam volley she can do and means she must either get close, or fire off more rockets for less damage.
At the bottom she’s just a case of a mechanic that is a bit problematic to start, ie being able to fly in a game that is meant for surface folks.
She like Bastion is a hold-over from OW’s original design system of niche characters you step into and out of as the battle progresses; they both need a rework.
And far higher pickrate. It mean that Pharah is only useful in certain map.
So it’s normal to have a higher win rate when you’re picked 9 time less than a Hanzo.
Currently in GM, Hanzo has 52.25 win rate when Pharah have 52.27
It mean that Pharah is only better of 0.02% when she is picked instead of a Hanzo.
So yes she is ok of 0.02% when she is picked instead of a Hanzo on certain map.
Pickrate/Winrate correlation.
She’s D tier and the only thing preventing her from going F tier is the ability to tape down M1 and sit at a long distance away and slowly break shields. That’s it.
Her golden days are long gone though. The splash damage nerf and splash boop nerf WRECKED her killing potential.
-470 hour Pharah player
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well id still say sombra and tracer have more to complain about than phara.
i dont know how you would make a flying character less niche since its always going to be easier to shoot her the higher the elo. maybe a evasive manouve like hanzo lunge but mid air.
Here is my 2 cents worth, Pharah needs more up and down movement to be viable. No need to change lore, add armor, or mess up balance. Allow the crouch button, well airborne, to fire rockets pushing her down. This should use some of her propellant.
I too have felt the useless frustration of floating like a balloon in a shooting gallery. If I could just get back behind that building…
Make Pharah better. Slap a little mobility on it.
No, it is still Reaper.
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She’s one of the top DPS in OWL.
she’s good, just more difficult nowadays and can kind of suffer on some map specific things.
No. She has her issues, like the fact that she is kinda balanced with a Mercy pocket in mind (the two heroes just have so much synergy that it’s really hard to have Pharah balanced both solo and with a pocket), but the simple fact that she has a balanced winrate, is really good in low ranks and one of the most popular DPS heroes in OWL makes it hard to argue she’s the worst hero in the game.
She needs changes, but she’s not in a terrible spot right now, and her pickrate could skyrocket even with pretty minor buffs.
not the worst. bottom 5 in dps tho.
Top 3 DPS in OWL.