Ah yes, the “DoOmFiSt Is OvErPoWeReD” user is back. Are you going to show us mediocre gameplay and try to pass it off as the best gameplay in the world again to try to prove your point? Or are you sticking to the misinformation and misuse of statistical data as you are in this thread?
His kinda already done that 
Only thing I find bs about df is cratered’s requirements, his mediocre ultimate and the amount of bugs he has.
Overwise his fine.
I think from here DF can start to be viable again with a tweak to his playstyle. Perhaps it may take some more small patches to DF but I’m seeing him being viable again.
Well, even if he’s not OP, he’s still better than Junkrat in GM with more playtime and with a literal 10% higher winrate. 
Also, as of this week,his win rate is 60.77%. Second highest after Bastion(yeah, you heard that right, Bastion must be super OP as well, right?) and followed closely by Mei then Torb. All these Heroes must be too overpowered. /s
Bastion is extremely strong in the situations that he’s used in. Mei is very arguably overpowered and oppressive - no idea why they’ve buffed her. Torb is strong right now.
And that’s why they’re all the most picked Heroes in GM, right? They’re not actually in the group of least picked Heroes. Oh wait…
Also they buffed her because they have more information on Mei than we do solely based off of Overbuff.
And that’s why they’re all the most picked Heroes in GM, right? They’re not actually in the group of least picked Heroes. Oh wait…
Also they buffed her because they have more information on Mei than we do solely based off of Overbuff.
When they are picked by the people who pick them on the points/maps they’re picked, they are strong.
And yet they are still among the least picked Heroes in the game. RNG must make the map rotation for comp pick the same map over and over and over and over for literally everyone in the world and then once in every ten thousand games decides to choose those maps those Heroes are good on.
There’s a word for Heroes who are only good on one or two maps out of every single map in rotation. Strong is not that word.
And yet they are still among the least picked Heroes in the game. RNG must make the map rotation for comp pick the same map over and over and over and over for literally everyone in the world and then once in every ten thousand games decides to choose those maps those Heroes are good on.
There’s a word for Heroes who are only good on one or two maps out of every single map in rotation. Strong is not that word.
We call them “situational picks”. Being a situational pick shouldn’t allow a hero to be exempt from normal balance adjustments.
He already sits at 62.10% winrate at GM
A) 59.86%
B) He has this high pickrate because he’s picked only by those who already mastered his playstyle and because he’s goats counter
C) I guess Mei and Bastion are way more overpowered if we say that hero is op because of winrate
Mei and Bastion are extremely oppressive in the right hands and the right situations. Overpowered? Debatable.
Right situation for bastion is: literally no one in enemy team knows how to counter him, or maybe only one knows but he isn’t in voice chat
And their oppressiveness doesn’t help them being viable.
Those abilities are still gutted. Also, it’s 48.43%, not 62.10%. Stop exaggerating the numbers.
There’s only 3 heroes in GM with below 50% winrates and doom isn’t one of them (He’s ~60% at the time of this reply)
Imagine calling someone else out for exaggeration, and shaving off 12% in your reply.
Being a situational pick shouldn’t allow a hero to be exempt from normal balance adjustments
And yet the majority of the playerbase disagrees with you on the state of these heroes. What makes you right but thousands of other people wrong?
Mei and Bastion are extremely oppressive in the right hands and the right situations.
Any hero is extremely oppressive in the right hands and situations. This isn’t limited to Mei and Bastion. This is true for nearly all Heroes. So therefore, all Heroes are equally balanced?
And yet the majority of the playerbase disagrees with you on the state of these heroes. What makes you right but thousands of other people wrong?
- Many people believing something doesn’t make it correct.
- I hope you’re not basing “majority of playerbase” on forum opinions. Forum opinion =/= majority of playerbase opinion.
- Many would agree that Bastion and Mei are OP in the right situations. Even in GM people are starting to realize just how crazy Mei is. Anecdotally, I’ve heard many GM streamers say similar things about these heroes.
https://clips.twitch.tv/HedonisticGoldenAnteaterMoreCowbell
https://clips.twitch.tv/MuddyObeseMeerkatRalpherZ
Any hero is extremely oppressive in the right hands and situations. This isn’t limited to Mei and Bastion. This is true for nearly all Heroes . So therefore, all Heroes are equally balanced?
Let me ask you this: Is 60% higher than 50%? Or is 60% equal to 50%? That should answer your question. The game is generally fairly balanced at the moment in my opinion, overall. These buffs for Doomfist will definitely send him over the edge into OP territory though - especially considering the likelihood of Baptiste being somewhat meta whom he counters.
That was an early reply, which was before the addendum reply I did.
You’re a very interesting individual.
Dude … no one cares what you suggest, you havent noticed?
Many people believing something doesn’t make it correct.
Many people giving information on why that would be would make it indicative that they are more right than someone who says “I think so” while using only partial information.
I hope you’re not basing “majority of playerbase” on forum opinions. Forum opinion =/= majority of playerbase opinion
Forums, reddit, and several other high profile streamers outside of those clips you posted.
Many would agree that Bastion and Mei are OP in the right situations. Even in GM people are starting to realize just how crazy Mei is. Anecdotally, I’ve heard many GM streamers say similar things about these heroes.
As you just said, many people thinking something doesn’t make it right. So why does that statement not apply to you, but it does to those who have a differing opinion than yours?
Let me ask you this: Is 60% higher than 50%? Or is 60% equal to 50%? That should answer your question
At this time, there are 3 heroes in GM this week at or below 50%. Based on your statement, everyone besides those three is overpowered. In addition, all only 10 heroes have below a 54% winrate, Genji being close at 53.94% as of this comment and Zarya at 53.80%.
The game is generally fairly balanced at the moment in my opinion, overall
“In your opinion” being the key words here.
These buffs for Doomfist will definitely send him over the edge into OP territory though - especially considering the likelihood of Baptiste being somewhat meta whom he counters.
Again, in your opinion. And we know how you actually veiw opinions outside of your own.