Sheesh just tell em “you’re not my dad!” and move on 
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Ok so you don’t care about your account, fair enough, you do you.
Fixing an issue like this on Blizzards end will neither be quick, permanent, nor 100% accurate. And in the meantime? You’re going to burn through accounts whilst you stare at the screen and do nothing every time you encounter someone you suspect might be smurfing.
Doesn’t sound like a great way to spend your leisure time. Literally anything else would be better at that point.
Emotionally, I am on your side. I hate smurfs and trash talkers, they’re fun sponges. But the second you start breaking TOS and burning accounts to ‘spite’ people who don’t care about you is the moment you lose me. It just seems like a counterintuitive approach to a problem you have no control over.
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Except they really are. The best way to learn is getting completely outclassed over and over again until you finally get it.
That’s actually how I learned Tang Soo Do! First day I was kicked across a room in sparring class. Second day I still lost badly, but wasn’t sent flying. I kept progressively getting better until I evened out to a 50/50 or so win/loss ratio against that person.
Facing people at your skill level over and over is how you become stagnant.
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I agree that you don’t get better by never being challeneged, however the learning curve should not be so steep that it breaks the students morale.
Everyrone learns differently though, so one persons learning curve is another persons ‘brick wall.’ Its definitely a case of ‘know thyself’ when it comes to learning.
In this case I’d say the focus needs to be taken off the people stomping the lobby (which they have zero control over) and placed onto what they can control, which is their own gameplay.
However, if someone has reached the point where they’ve taken their hands off the keyboard, then a break is definitely necessary. Nothing good is going to come of pushing it further.
Bad experiences in games can be infuriating and toxic, and it takes distance from the game to bring things back into perspective, a person can’t do that by continuing to queue but not play.
But you make some really good points about not giving up, I think we have all been in situations like that (perhaps not identical, but you know what I mean.)
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no because if you are being outclassed whatever you do you can’t try anything, so not worth at all. is just pretending to go on the other side of a wall giving headbutts
vs them I learn zero.
can’t control my gameplay since I don’t have room to do anything.
While that is true, it’s also a matter of perspective. I see smurfs a fair bit, since my Tank and Support roles both play around Diamond level. If I get destroyed in the first round, that’s motivation to get better and win to further feed my ego.
Smurfs should not be breaking people’s morale. They’re playing at a lower rank than their own because it’s too hard for them to get the winrate they want at their level. That automatically makes you better than them.
There’s unfortunately no way to fix smurfs in OW without breaking matchmaking further, so you have to have a very solid mental state or a massive ego to manage to play this game and get better.
Yes, I fully agree. It takes time and effort to get into a state of mind to play OW. If you let yourself get burned out you’ll be set back. Breaks are necessary to refresh your mind.
That’s absolutely not true. Focus on the smurf. What are they doing that you’re not? Why are they so good you feel you can’t do anything? Overwatch is a game that’s 90% decision making. If you watch people with more skill and figure out why they do what they do, you’re practically on their level already. The same can be applied to martial arts. Do not focus on winning. That’s unlikely, and it isn’t being fair on yourself. Focus on lessening the gap between yourself and the smurf as much as possible during the match.
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You have already learned something: They are better and don’t belong in your games.
In terms of learning you have reached a state we call ‘conscious incompetence.’ You know you’re not the same skill level as them, but you don’t even know where to begin to match them.
This is above ‘unconscious incompetence’, which is a spot on the learning curve where someone doesn’t even know they’re doing anything wrong in the first place.
In this respect alone, you have climbed that learning curve. But you stop any chance of further progression by taking your hands off the keyboard and refusing to play.
This isn’t about the smurfs, this is about your unwillingness to engage any player you percieve as better than you.
If you play vs them, even just to try new things, you have a chance of winning.
If you stand still and throw, that chance drops to zero.
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This is actually a good point. If someone’s ego is so fragile that they’re smurfing they’re not the gods they wish they were.
I’d go further to say winning should not be the focus of any game we play. Because if your enjoyment of the game hinges on winning, then there are going to be huge spans of time where you’re not enjoying yourself.
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The amount of fresh smurf accounts with 1 endorsement level isn’t surprising considering the lack of content and game going F2P. Just let the match end quickly and don’t bother feeding those trolls.
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to me being farmed all match whatever I do and see a smurf, who shouldn’t be in my match, is only demotivating and nothing more.
instead is the exact thing they do
no
work less on bpass and think a solution, but these devs just ignore everything isn’t money related
is not me the one who should leave, up on them
i prefer to stay afk and watch netflix rather than look at someone ruiniing the game
being in a new acc vs lower ranks. here what they do. can’t focus if i’m
always dead whataver I do
playin vs people 3-4 ranks lower
what they do? ruin my games. farming me out of spawn. demotivating me. dude I simply can’t try anything if always dead
two different things. a black belt will never be matched vs a white one
ok so can’t do this
Yeah but going afk risks getting their account banned. Mentally going ‘gg next’ and going afk and feeding are two very different things.
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The anti smurf is already extremely aggressive. A gm who makes a new account will place in masters at the absolute minimum now and sometimes you get thrown straight into gm. Although that does seem a bit random in how the game decides.
Nobody is regularly facing gm smurfs down in gold or anything. The only way that’s a thing is if they’re old OW1 accounts which are finite and will eventually all be exhausted. Since again, the anti smurf is very aggressive now. Too aggressive if anything since it catches players who just go on lucky winstreaks too.
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Well there’s a starting point if nothing else. If you wanted something to focus on during a game like this, perhaps focus on staying alive vs them as long as possible?
It would be more engaging than afking through your own gametime.
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They’ll get banned if they AFK long enough to leave the match of which there are 4 more until seasonal competitive ban. They can reset that penalty by finishing a certain amount of matches afterwards. Other possible ban is mass report but that can apply to anyone not just AFK category. There are people reporting others just because they feel like it.
It really depends what kind of scenario Octopus is experiencing. I’ve only seen two types of smurfs in my experience. Large premade parties that annihilate entire enemy team then ignore objective to intentionally lose to stay at low ranks. The other kind is the duo party that is clearly boosting a buddy on an alternate account. Either way it’s scummy behavior and the best way to handle it is by losing the match as quick as possible.
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i stay alive being afk, if I try something I die vs em, simple.
Why are you letting them farm you? Focus on what you can do to make it tough for them. Don’t let yourself be a free kill. NEVER be isolated, ALWAYS focus them as a team from the get-go.
They shouldn’t. That’s a mental weakness on your part. It’s a matter of perspective.
Yes.
Sigh
STOP. THINKING. LIKE. THIS. Not just you, EVERYONE. The people working on the battle pass, skins, balance, matchmaking, or anything you care to name are all different people. They can’t fix smurfing because there’s already a system in place to do that and it’s been messing up high elo as it is. It’s not about the battle pass. It has never been about the battle pass.
If you’re getting frustrated enough to throw, it’s on you to take a break and refresh your mind…
And that is why you’ll never get better. You’ll stay in your rank, avoiding everyone better than you, and never improve.
Do you think that smurfs are evolved humans? They never die, and always kill you regardless of what you do?
Because that’s dumb, no offense. If you were dead no matter what you did, you’d be the absolute best player in the game. By saying “dead no matter what I do”, you’re saying that better decision making wouldn’t prevent your death. Even though it very much would. Let’s say you’re also a smurf, ok? You and the other smurf are the same rank. Would you still be dead no matter what? No, of course not. You’d be able to do something to fight them and possibly win the fight. Through better decision making. That’s what you can do. Make better decisions. And the best way to get into the mindset to do that is playing against people better than you.
Cop out answer and you know it.
Again, cop out answer.
Actually, that’s exactly what happened to me. They match up black belts and white belts, tell the black belts not to permanently harm the white belts, and LET them get stomped. That’s how we learned.
Why?
This is true as well. Although, it’s weirdly inconsistent. I placed in Plat 3 on my alt and have like a 93% winrate I think. To be fair, I don’t use a crosshair on that account so my stats are way lower than they would be, but still. It’s Diamond 1 now. It doesn’t catch all smurfs, but it does a good job with the majority.
And why is that? What makes them so far above you that you feel you can’t try anything? Focus on that, and do your best to replicate it.
nothing.
is called realism, watching a level I will never reach, and see them playin vs lower ranks is only demotivating.
no
people won’t get this frustrated if 1- smurfs stop being like that and play on their main.
SOMEONE fix the problem
lose vs ppl who are in my rank for real? fine
learn vs people who defeated me since played better IN THE SAME ELO? fine and nice
learn vs people who are 3 ranks higher but are vs lower ranks.? demotivating and stupid. none will get better like that.
it’s what happen
took my decision, not trying or just spam some skill while pressing w.
again
VS 3 PPL HIGHER I WILL NEVER LEARN ANYTHING.
I didn’t understood any single word here.
again, can’t get what you mean
whoever did this was stupid
because is like this.
no
3 ranks, dude we’re goin in circles. I can’t do anything vs em. simple. I won’t focus on ppl who are too cowards to stay on their mains in their elo.
now have we finished with this stupid motivationals (wich don’t motivate me at all) talks?
bUT I WANT TO GET INTO FAZE CLAN BECAUSE EVERYBODY IS EQUAL TO MY SKILL I CAN’T MAKE GREAT SEXTUPLE KILL MONTAGE SO I NEED TO PUB STOMP
This is absolutely true, it’s not possible anymore to Smurf on fresh accounts.
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This is the absolute minority of players, most people Smurf to learn new roles, heros or playstyles.
Pooping on noobs is fun for like 3 games, then it gets stale and boring.
In general are PvP games to challenge you and finding out who’s the best.
If this concept doesn’t appeal to you, try to swap games.
I for example just play doom or warhammer games if I’m not in the mood to compete.
But seriously overwatch or any competitive game is not chill, laidback and easy.
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