If Samito is faithful in OW's future

And I see you misunderstood my argument. I would explain it better, but I’m just gonna let you do your thing :v:


That’s a pretty big clique. Even includes a dude that speaks French, how inclusive of them.

And I mean, no clue if he was actually in the meeting but Yeatle did have this to say

Exactly. It’s still a biased, preferential, discriminatory selection.
They’re cherry-picking who gets this offer.
We know it’s marketing reasons.
Mostly around influence, content reach, positive/negative press etc.

But some of them are extremely toxic = possible hedge against bad press or just not.
They know who they’re extending the access/offer to.
Samito was cancelled by the community for a reason - someone already linked the KYS vid.
People get perma-banned for much much less.

But this offer is coming from team4 and confirms who they’re willing to back.

Are we supposed to know who that even is or care? No more name or rank dropping to make someone’s opinions, access, credibility, and influence any more/less valid. That’s literally their mistake.

I have zero experience in PR, so I’m not gonna argue for or against this.

“Supposed to”? I guess not, but many people do. Like the 63.9k people that follow him on Twitter for example.

But the point is he was invited to the meeting and didn’t share the same sentiment as all the other attendees like you said.

Ofc i know who that is the point was:

it’s relevant if you’re forcing the brand via shadow marketing tactics.

my mistake, I meant to say almost* all the invitees. edited to almost* based on what I can see. Does someone have a list of who went and if/what they tweeted? I would like to be able to validly use the word ‘majority of them’ etc. to describe the situation.

I’ll just tell you from my experience watching the man play and speak… Kephrii is a pretty laid back, nonchalant fellow who’s probably borderline sociopath because of the nature of streaming and the toll it’s taken on him. I wouldn’t be surprised if he feels he has to live up to that persona forever. All it means is that Kephrii is not excited for new content. I’m telling you now I’ve never seen that man excited for anything

Honestly I never had anything against any streamers. I never really watched Samito, but whenever he’s doing a podcast with flats I really can’t stand him. He always seems like everything he says is more important than anyone else. Seems kinda hotheaded too and irrational at times. He just never shut: up ever. Also told that guy to kill himself in his chat so.

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he is def a much better rep than samito.
samito is full toxic and flats makes fun of bronze players for a living.
just my $0.02.

ow2 shud have some content creator purge/reset. new faces not the same old.
and nda type reveals should use more random select ppl.
shadow marketing and whitelisted access is just more signalling this company treats interfacing with the avg customer like a chore to get through.

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I watch Samito just because you always get to experience the rage. He cannot help it, and I feel really awkward that it entertains me as much as I does, but I do not lie. Not in my nature. Premium content if you want to watch some extreme salt.

I’m sorry I don’t really follow.

I realise it sounds pedantic, but when trying to discern whether or not Blizzard coerced the CCs to fake positivity it’s an important detail to point out.

I’m not gonna post all the Twitter links, but I have compiled a list of all the ones I could find (There very well could be more)

  • Your Overwatch
  • EeveeA
  • Daniel Fenner
  • Flats
  • Kragie
  • Emongg
  • ML7
  • Samito
  • Stylosa
  • Master Ian Gamer
  • SVB
  • Bro You Wack
  • Skiesti
  • Potxeca
  • Gale
  • KarQ
  • Jay3
  • Warn
  • EchoFlex
  • Kephrii
  • Soosh (Not 100% sure about this one because she deleted her tweet but there is a reply from the community manager Jodie thanking her for being there here)

Edit: Should also note that they are apparently looking to speak to some creators that missed out, such as Fran and Holiwhirl. I also heard Super was invited but slept through it.
Edit 2: help idk how to use html
Edit 3: i figured out how to html we all g :sunglasses:

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I am glad you think that. But there is a slight difference between him and i. I am not a streamer, I am not a trying to be a voice of the community, I am not in the public eye, i do not get special treatment from blizzard.

So these differences need to be addressed. But thank you for putting me up there as a pillar of the community. Even if its a toxic rotten pillar

It would be nice to see a reset but I doubt that will happen. Flats, Emongg, Kephrii, etc… all good people in their own way. I dont discredit them for being in their position or what they do. There just needs to be a baseline level of communication with everyone. That way theres no empty promises or huge letdowns. As I said before: no reason to upsell something that wasn’t worth hiding in the first place

No XQC, Dafran, or Sinatra? I guess they just weren’t on Samito’s level…

But seriously, thanks for the list. That is quite the group. I honestly do not even recognize some of them which is kind of crazy to me.

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A smart marketing team would have some of them say “bad” and most to say “good” just to create an overall signal that isn’t so optimistic it breeds suspicion. It’s an important point some could get different NDA with more leeway for expression and personal opinion.

It’s also important to note that when you survey sample a target audience of your choice (one’s with conflict of interest like making money by making OW content), you are likely to get their opinions to reflect what you are trying to broadcast.

Plus they’re in full control of what is revealed and how it is presented to these influencers. Which they will no doubt do for regular community as well, but with different reveal, time, channels.

All in all it’s a lot of masking which is why ppl are like:
show us the same thing at the same time?

This is appreciated. Any rough % on those who are ‘let’s wait and see’ ?
or what % immediately jumped into ‘it’s going to be AWESOME’ circle?

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Nothing any streamer says can be trusted. Why bad mouth your paycheck?

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From memory, Kephrii is the only one I’ve found so far to not express absolute positivity, so about 5%.

I know, Im feelin wishful during the holiday season

He wouldn’t mass flag anyone he disagrees with.
You’re the weird keyboard warrior here that thinks you can police other forumers on what they can and can’t say
“Words hurt more than actions” :crazy_face::crazy_face:
Good thing that guy ghosted you

I’m not a samito stan and I’ve barely touched his content in more than a year but people that only see his rage clips and suddenly think they can judge him for them acting like they’re perfect is weirdo behavior

I think it’s guilds, as a quick fix to try and keep the player base happy. Only i think it will make a more toxic environment. Even if your clan works well together, is well run - sooner or later one person is bound to join and create a massive internal divide. Either trying to take over or half the clan will have different visions for how the clan should be run.

Then their is the inevitable disputes between clans, given the already toxic environment a clan feature at this stage I think will be a powder keg.

If whole thing about bright future for overwatch is just guild system i going to laugh so much at this.

Yes, you’re right, I don’t need him to see these comments, I am not even a fan, but I respect ppl who dedicated themselves that much. And I hope this forum will get better.