I dont see Mercy as giving more value than other characters, J…I see her as getting less
In any case, I disagree. First, all the characters are easy to play. Second, if someone wants to play a character they perceive as easier, the characters are available. Same if they want to play a character they perceive as more challenging. For sake of balance, however, the output should be the same
which it isn’t until like gm where supports are skilled enough to outplay your average Mercy.
Support players also suck so eh
Arnt you doing the same here
Your speaking for “many others”
When I say “WE” im not saying every single person alive. Im saying we as in mercy players not all mercy.
Obviously some dont want it removed and some do. Why you gotta be so pedantic about it?
People complain here about Mercy’s rez. But they also complain about her survivability, her ability to fly like a moth and escape. Should we also rework that ? How many times does rez actually change the course of a game completely, allowing one side to win just because of that ? I’m not saying it doesn’t happen, I just wonder how often rez is such a “game winner”.
Because it’s fun… unless it bugs out and no-regs the rez. Honestly idk how any of you guys can still complain about Mercy when she’s got so many problems like that. She don’t even got the fun bug anymore, just a bunch of annoying ones that makes her sit still and waste time trying to get her abilities to work. And you’re still struggling? How did you even survive OW1, when Mercy had a lot more control over her movement and didn’t have to actively fight the map collision to get from point A to point B?
I could care less if rez was removed, I’m also not a mercy main though. I guess I look at when it was an instant AoE rez that granted invulnerability when used, so I don’t think a very slow casted rez when you’re defenseless and a free kill is a big deal. But I assume people complaining about it are also the ones that say she has to much mobility and solo visor her in the air lol.
I think it’s just how far and where it can be used. Imo, it should require LOS to her and to remain in range for the Rez the entire animation. It doesn’t need to be removed, but it shouldn’t be able to Rez people from like 5 meters or however far it is and around a corner.
Though such a thing would probably cripple her. Maybe if they do replace it, they’ll probably just let her shoot her gun while her staff is out, but at a slower pace or something.
Supports aren’t allowed to heal too much, deal too much damage, have too much mobility, or have too strong of utility
Also Mercy usually gets 4 off per 10 minutes; so it’s not like it happens very often
Maybe because it’s how Mercy players interact with other people on the forums? Any suggestion to change literally anything about Mercy is pretty much always immediately shot down and the poster is insulted for it by Mercy players.
Also this is a flat out lie. Any time I’ve seen anyone suggest Rez gets removed and replaced with anything else, even if it’s flat out a better thing, all the Mercy players come in to insult them and be like “imagine being so bad at the game you can’t kill a Mercy standing still casting rez”.
Point me to a suggestion about changing Mercy that wasn’t fundamentally flawed with one of those things:
Please, do point me to a topic that isn’t flawed like that and “got shot down”.
Or stop pretending that we do it out of spite, because we don’t!
Please do point me to those insults…
And no, pointing out that something was proposed multiple times and stating the same thing once again aren’t insults!
Please point me to those topics that “proposed to changing res in to something that is far better and was rejected by Mercy mains”…
Because I can point you to many Mercy mains that openly state “remove it and give me something useful, I don’t care about res”.
Links to those topics, or Hitchens’s Razor!
This is the wrong post to say that in, since OP didn’t say anything other than “delete rez” while being catty to Mercy players. That’s what most of these posts are. It’s just “Mercy is bad for the game” and maybe a call to delete some part of her kit, with no explanation as to why and no suggestion on how to fix the issues they want Blizzard to address. Doesn’t help when folks also decide to insult people. They get the same amount of respect they give, most of the time.
From me even less…
To be fair, I’ve read that argument quite a few times, or at least something similar. You know, the good ol’ “git gud” argument.
For the rest, I rather agree with you (Trickster, that is).
Not only am I too lazy to do that, but I’m ngl I have you and Pawsitivity blocked because a few months ago the two of you went off on me in one of my topics.
That I will not link because I want all those old topics forgotten.
kinda but thats ok
the issue was it did like 70hps when someone dropped below 50% and mercy’s healing is infinite
the reason in my example it buffs it back to 60 is because its a resource, so its ok to have it be a lil higher since they cant just hold down the heal beam forever.
part of the reason why her surviability is an issue is that she doesnt ‘need’ to go out into the open, the idea behind her becoming a triage healer is that she now has to move across the map to her team to keep em alive/ dmg boost instead of sitting on one person the entire game.
if your going to require her to do that, you might as well undo the nerf.
if mercy is out in the open more often, she dies alot easier then if shes just hiding behide cover for 90% of the match.
if used properly it can and will change the tide of a team fight, and doing that and halt a teams momentum making it harder for them to win the next few fights.
but its less about it being an op ability, and more about it being bad for both the mercy (since she rarely can use it) and the enemy team
if both sides hate it, why not just remove it and replace it with something else?
It’s iconic for the hero and probably will never change. The reality is that high ranked Mercys barely ever get to use rez. If it got replaced by something good, they’d be all for it.
Question- how would removing res effect the MERCY at all? It’s not like mercy is the one being ressed.
not at all
not at all
many others have already stated this in other threads
I am a member of that “we”, as I do play Mercy
your statement, claiming to speak for all Mercy players, does not match my opinion
so again, it is inadvisable to claim to speak for a large group, particularly when one does not have the authority to do so
I have not been pedantic at all
I ask that the personal attacks cease
It’s not op, especially if your team doesn’t protect you. It’s a team investment, and an enemy investment as well. You either protect and res, or you focus and kill the mercy before she does. It’s a gimmick of priority, and it seems a lot of people dislike making quick and important decisions, especially as a team. The only OP part of her, is a team that is willing to play around her. Otherwise, she is a floating target.
So what you brought up without evidence got just dismissed without evidence…
Why are you lying then, now is the question…