If Cassidy is so bad

I am not going to hold youe hand here. If you don’t want the truth don’t ask for it.

Wow. Players are actually considering Overbuff as an accurate means of data.

Alright then since you don’t want to listen or look for yourself, I challenge you to make a case without winrates.

Let’s talk like coaches and strategists rather than students comparing homework.

I said in the same comment that it’s not perfect lol. It’s not a bad starting point and does tend to line up with what the devs say

Also the devs did say they are unhappy with him

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Or you’re lying.

Okay…

I don’t think so. I got called out before when utilizing Overbuff for my debates. Since then after a couple incedents I’ve dropped using it now for any arguement.

Even her non scoped left click is often more effective than Cassidy’s. It’s firing speed is quicker, the gun has a larger capacity, and it has good enough spread and recoil to consistently hit headshots. The only downside is the overall damage, though the difference is negligible when combined with its upsides.

Dynamite is just better than mag (arguably better than FB was as well), coach gun is a better movement ability/ escape tool than roll, and she has a much larger range when using scope. There’s also bob but he needs no explanation.

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I’m fairly sure you’re wrong about this. Like, quite wrong, both in terms of statistics and hero usage. soldier is a sustained damage hero, that’s pretty well agreed upon within the community. And if he emptied his magazine in three seconds he’d be firing 10 bullets a second, giving him the highest dps in the game, which he doesn’t have. Why do you always speak with such certainty if you aren’t going to get it right?

Because Cassidy whiners are exaggerating hugely, just like Genji one tricks.

It’s really hard to get value from Ashe. If you’re not aiming she’s trash and if you are you get focused hard just like playing Widow.

Cassidy is not bad. He is pretty good if you compare him to the rest of the DPS role.

The issue is that every match borders on being a long range hitscan mirror because they have been meta enforced and overbuffed. The heroes that Cassidy is supposed to be good against have been overnerfed, and the ones he is supposed to be weak against are close to omnipresent across all ladder in both teams.

Before buffing him into being as overpowered as the other hitscans, lets nerf Soldier, Sojourn and Ashe as they should have been nerfed a year ago, and buff a couple of other DPS to Cassidy’s level.

He’s not bad, people just suck at using him. Like everything else in the game people call out bad but is actually just a skill issue. Cassidy requires good positioning, AIM and game sense when he pops that ult. Cassidy is the only hitscan I even consider high skill to be honest. If you arent landing your shots with cassidy, you are gonna have a bad time. This is the biggest reason people claim cass is bad. I play cassidy in GM, I have no issues playing him. Cass is a bit map dependent, you shouldn’t play him in very large maps but he’s extremely effective in modes like push, king of the hill and flashpoint. Push is a different story because those maps usually have long sightlines where widow, hanzo and ashe have the advantage. You can still play cass in those maps but it’s gonna take more effort to do so.

I guess thats the biggest issue with the community, 99% of you don’t understand effective range. You all want to play your favorite heroes 24/7 and expect to do well in every map. Thats a fools dream and it’s impossible. Otherwise everyone is a sniper and everyone is no longer unique. Cassidy is an anti flanker hero, he’s great at shutting down flankers compared to any other dps in the game. If you have the skill to play cass and you know how to properly use the grenade then you should be doing just fine. Some heroes however are just straight up busted like sojourn and soldier 76 or heck even ashe with her fast fire rate considering her range power. Thats not a cassidy issue, it’s a balance issue that blizzard still has to fix. Cass is fine, he’s perfectly balanced

This is my take as well, he’s just lacking identity at the moment. Which puts his character in a strange limbo state; Not to mention the nerfs they’ve given him.

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its what is called a comfort pick.

but also the ‘average’ player loves to avoid easy heroes and instead focus on the most difficult thing they can find. (even if they arnt good enough to play said hero)

this is why the metal ranks have so many genji mains and otp’s and why so many hitscans pick cassidy instead of ashe, soldier or sojourn.

(or they pick doomfist/ball)

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h ttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BuucHpIJanc
Cynical Nerds was correct seven years ago, and still correct even now. Soldier is a burst-oriented hero.

His sustain was buffed a few years ago, when he previously had 25 ammo. But he has always been angled towards bursting targets down, Helix Rocket proves this. The original “Offense” role was more or less built like this. Most Damage-role heroes are built for burst, not sustain.

He fires 9 bullets per second, meaning that he empties his clip in 3.3 seconds. Originally he did 17 damage per second, so this meant 153 damage per second. This was considered too low for him, and he was one of the few Damage-role heroes to see direct damage buffs, when many others were seeing damage reductions.

Today, Soldier’s damage is 19 per shot at 9 shots per second putting him damage per second at 171; reload and accuracy factors excluded. Consistently, one of the strongest burst-damage heroes in the game, as well as one of the fastest.

Yes her non scope isn’t bad, but no-one is afraid of duelling an Ashe spamming non scope it’s basically like duelling Moira.

Her scoped needs mercy just to compete with Cassidy, there’s a reason they nerfed Cass range which was so more people would play Ashe

I don’t think I’ve ever seen an Ashe carry a game since she could 1 shot with mercy

Fair but dynamite isn’t a good ability either

Coach gun is ashes best ability, it’s actually 2 abilities in 1.

Roll is horrible, but fan is extremely strong.

Deadeye is good too but no-one knows how to use it properly

If Cassidy and widow are 2 ends of the spectrum specialising in their range, then Ashe is a generalist whose only value can be by having more abilities not better abilities otherwise widow and Cass can’t perform at their range niche

I think Cass’ PR is often inflated, and his WR deflated, by a large quantity of non-Cass players swapping to him as a desperate counterpick. Maybe this is in part Blizzard’s fault for shoehorning him into being a counter rather than reworking him as a good hero in his own right.

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What? Hardly. She has an answer to almost everything between AOE dynamite, a precision primary + scope, and a knockback + 360° mobility tool. She’s a highly dangerous opponent to face in a duel.

Replay of my last Ashe game: N1ZR39

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Please don’t use his deadname, that is offensive.

Another case of I made it up but don’t want to admit it I am guessing?
Please don’t be lazy and provide your evidence if you have it, or accept people not believing you. You said you studied law and I am pretty sure you must have learned that just stating it without presenting the evidence is not a good look. You can’t do that and say “well the opposing legal team can just look the information up themselves, its there somewhere”.

The mobility is a huge deal when it comes to being more viable. Cassidy can be dove on pretty quickly and his roll does not provide nearly enough mobility to save him from that. Maybe he can fend of a single flanker if he hits his shot. But any kind of coordination and he is in trouble.

Not only for dive though. Brawl comps if they can get on him also are a big problem, cause he can’t move vertically at all. He just gets ran over at that point.

Great read on that!

Ashe has the advantage of having some mobility and playing close enough to the team generally to get peeled a bit. Where Widow is more often relying on bigger off angles.

Will agree that she gets very little value if you do not hit your shots somewhat consistently.

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Okay squeed is browsing through my post history for harrassment.

Just careful here guys. He necro’d a thread to gain some clout.

This is starting to becoming more and more concerning Squeed.

Keep making baseless assumptions and deflecting valid calls to action for you.

Not like I made a post in this topic earlier and maybe decided to scroll through to see if there had been more interesting points that got brought up… Keep assuming people are doing things out of malice I guess? But don’t look at yourself and realise you have been doing that a lot though and maybe think that you got a problem…

But uhm. Going to point out the data or … just going to ignore that now?

Are you advertising for false flags now?

Look I’m sorry I assumed here. You can speak your piece just please keep the emotional bias you have for others under control. Thank you.