Because if i see a zen i or someone else goes sombra and hes basically perma dead. Hence he aint played much.
This would just be a cop-out, as far as I’m concerned. There are a lot of identity archetypes which are fundamentally “broken” and/or useless but can be or have been reworked to be more engaging. Widow is the best examples. Widow’s identity is “murder sniper”, and that identity has been repeatedly retooled from her being able to quickscope oneshot Tanks to where she currently is now while still keeping her identity.
I don’t buy the argument that, for some reason, Mercy’s identity is the one that needs to be sacrificed.
her identity is the “rez lady” all of a sudden? lol
they have atleast gutted widows ability to 1 shot from 70m and even then, they had to add a reworked sombra to tune her down further.
the fact is you could rework widow to not be a 1 shotting hero and thatd be a good thing
the identity of a hero is meaningless if that part of the identity is whats causes the hero problems and a hitscan shouldnt be able to 1 shot you on their own.
moira is a great example of this. moira is a bad hero because shes designed to be playable by people who cant aim but her big utility is dmg
so shes tuned in a way that make it so she does very little actual dmg, and is only strong in really low ranks.
if you changed her identity from the “no aim” support, and made her have a more accurate shorter range beam she could do real dmg and actually be useful to her team.
holding on to stupid identities for bad heroes doesnt help anyone.
mercy’s rez needs to go because it sucks for mercy just as much as the enemy team, their is no way to make it fun for both sizes without removing it.
if you buff it to make it better for mercy then it becomes oppressive and shes a must pick again because rez is that powerful of an ability, then once it gets nerfed she sits in the same position shes at right now.
Rez makes team fights 5v6 every 30 seconds.
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Not how it works. She doesn’t spawn a 6th player lol
Also she averages 4, so if she’s getting one off every 30 seconds in your games, then your team is way worse than hers.
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That’s not what we’re talking about when we mean “character identity”. We’re not talking about whether or not Moira is high aim or low aim or high skill or low skill. Moira’s “character identity” is “unpredictable scientist”. She is themed around that, so her kit is designed around the fact that she can either help people or hurt people and you don’t know which.
Mercy’s “character identity” is a “Germanic Valkyrie” – the entire point of a valkyrie is their ability to revive or collect their dead warriors. Taking away her ability to interact with dead allies ruins the entire motif. The same would be true if, say, someone decided that Cassidy required more ammunition and decided to up his ammo cap to 50 instead of 6. His entire identity is that of a cowboy with a six-shooter, so that sort of design is baked into what he is.
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Ranged one shots make team fights 5v4 faster than every 30 seconds.
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Mainly because a well executed dive makes the game fun again. Playing into the sustain meta is boring, so good players take a risk and play Dive to counter it.
Most games I’m in are still Dive. No one wants nothing to die.
the ana’s anti-nade nerf did nothing compared to what shoulda been done to it. 2 secs doesnt do much.
Maybe its me. I see a mercy get rez off my first thought is. “I geuss we allow rezes on my team.” Not “mercy rez is broken!!!” 
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sometimes I wonder if people have never played other games.
People call rez OP and unfun when over in dota 2 there is a hero that has a ability that places a 5 second buff on someone and as long as the buff is active they can not die (with few exceptions), and its possible to have 100% uptime on that ability.
So when people call rez broken and unfun, I alwasy laugh because truly broken and unfun abilities make rez look like a angelic blessing from got
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well she can get a new motif.
if the identity hurts the heroes playability, their is absolutely no reason to not change it.
the difference is that you could easily retcon cass to have a different type of pistol, a “upgrade”.
i mean…they changed his name.
just because you like the motif doesnt mean it shouldnt be removed and reworked into something better.
im not saying mercy needs to be soldier 76 but she needs a new ability to replace rez.
when you are only getting to use it like 3 times a match thats not fun, thats basically an ultimate that sucks.
the motif doesnt matter to gameplay, they can change gameplay and still have the character be whatever they want.
ive said the same thing about genji, he needs a rework. if that means he loses some of his current identity then go for it because its better the hero is more enjoyable to play and play against then it is that hes a cyborg ninja with a sword and shurikens.
Also this idea of saying mercy is one of the worst supports in the game, really means nothing in reality.
Put it like this. It’s like saying a diamond ring, is the worst out of the group of diamond rings…
It’s still a diamond ring.
Not only are moira and lucio worse.
But even if she was THE worst, her being the worst out of the STRONGEST role in the game. Means nothing. She’s still strong. The other supports are just much more broken.
I mean I still think rez is the wrong thing to attack about her, imo she needs a full rework. She has one singular functionable playstyle… and that’s it. It’s just pocketing. But the defense of “but she’s the worst out of all of them” just, doesn’t mean what you think it does.
lol when you have the Mercy on your team and they don’t so it’s easy.
you got the pocket, you got resurrects GG EZ
That’s incorrect as well. Not every Support is broken. Mercy gets by far the least value in games besides MAYBE Moira. Lucio, the only contender for worst besides Moira, has lethality and utility that puts him above Mercy. And Lucio is generally considered well balanced.
Issues with Mercy are skill issues.
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As a cass player and long time speghetti westerns lover. that would ruin him for me. His name change is irrelevant.
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They could always buff Cassidy’s range tho.
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Yeah and the non problematic ones got the nerfs.
I don’t agree that there’s zero middle ground between what the character currently is and a more fun and engaging form of “reanimating dead warriors”.
This. Again, the problem is that we’re not talking about a table and graphs on a chart. We’re talking about characters with an identity and personality. You may claim that it doesn’t matter, but if they suddenly reworked Genji so that he had no mobility and stomped his way around the map with a gatling gun and a baseball cap, half his mains would hate to play him, whether or not the new version was more “balanced” or “viable” than the old one. A good number of them like playing as him because he’s a badass cyberninja, not Redneck Heavy.
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No, only 6/10 of them are.
Which is my point… yes mercy might me some of the worst IN the support role… but that means nothing when you’re comparing her to Omega class SSS tier heroes.
Mercy’s ability to combo with dps, ALONE makes her better than both lucio and moira. Because that isn’t meta dependant. You can ALWAYS combo with a dps whenever you need to. Rush isn’t always meta for lucio and moira to get value.
Rush isn’t good, so lucio moira isn’t good.
If rush becomes meta? Absolutely moira and lucio will be better than mercy. Until that happens? Mercy is better.
Hell, we’re in what is essentially a poke meta with sigma as the main tank so like??? That’s MERCY’S meta.