I think we can all agree Paris is the worst map

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I like paris. First point has environmental deaths. 2nd point is good for long range shooting.

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A key difference with Hanamura is that the offense has high ground options that work - Paris has one, dead center where everyone on the other side is at the same level for the most part, and its very shape means you have to stand in it forward and cant evade left or right. It’s just bad…

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Paris is not that bad actually. I’d say that bunker on Havana 1st point is even worse

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You can also use Pharah & Widow to get over the building on the left, but it’s still my least favorite map.

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I really like it.

ANd its a million times better than Horizon Lunar Colony.

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Agreed. HLC is just pure garbage.

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I like it. Second best 2CP after Hanamura.

HLC is the worst

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The only map where I go “ugh I wish I could log off” is Junkertown. It has elements that should be fun but just aren’t.

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Bunker on 2nd point Paris is hilarious. Everyone stuffing themselves into a corner right next to the main entrance. Impossible to break. Stuffed a team for 6 minutes last night running that. Other team swapped to a Sombra after a while but was impossible for her to gain ult with everyone crammed into the bunker.

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Yeah, I think Havana is the first map I actively despise. The stupid close quarters part of the map sucks. It basically invalidates 2/3 of the heroes.

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I disagree.

Havana is way worse imo.

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For me first points there are equal pain in the S on both maps. But the second point in Paris is much better, IMO. Multiple ways in without some kind of ledge to pass, lots of angles for an attack, large open point.

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To you: learn what an exaggeration/hyperbole is, thanks.

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He means you have to play less prominent picks to clear it with ease. Flight enabled, stealth, teleportation, and/or moving together (working together in a team game is kinda heretical these days)

The joy of the paris choke is: There’s a healthy distance usually between you and the enemy team on the short perch overlooking it, as opposed to hanamura where you’re practically breathing on each other at the choke.

Alot of the easy ways to clear the first choke however become less powerful on the second. Its actually quite refreshing to have a map with stages that makes certain picks that are strong at first, weaker on the second.

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I at least won on Paris attack…
Havanna attack is impossible.

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Personally, I do not think exaggeration or hyperbole have any place in serious discussion

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They should just stop creating escort and 2cp maps, spawn advantage absolutely ruins the game. At every point in the game, one team will always have a massive advantage over the other, it’s stupid.

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Most of the post-launch maps are kinda iffy, I feel like. Of post-launch I think Eichenwalde is probably the one I like the most.

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I usually don’t have issues on Paris, I’m surprised so many other people seem to.

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I actually don’t mind Paris. I dislike Horizon MUCH more.

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