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yes because its hitscan spam. shes played in spam as chipsa already went over, and he is still played more.

also, just select may melee, hes played way way more

Came in here expecting the usual posters to be defending Mccree as ā€œfineā€ and acting as though him getting any kind of nerf will make him Bastion tier.

Wasn’t disappointed.

They did nerf that, reload nerf

Mccree has to reload very often, it impacts jima ton

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No, the current Meta is not a pure spam

The biggest usage of cree was in Brawly comps, like Doublebubble and ReinDvaBrawl.

In spam comps like WinstonSpam you nearly always played Echo+Ash, sometimes tracer

In current OWL Meta its the same: If you play a spammy stile you use Echo and Ash, if you play a rather brawly stile you use Brig+Cree

You know why you used him so much in Maymelee? Because both comps are very brawlie

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in may melee the current meta appears to be cree tracer with echo being played 9%

I dont see how this controdics my point, MayMelee was very brawlie. Explain it plsease

You do know that’s literally blizzard, right? The developers are the only ones working on the game at all, and you’re still playing it, meaning if anything made the game better or worse its just blizzard.

Unless you were a secret blizzard employee the whole time???

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Don’t know what is yall problem with cree here, I don’t play him and win my games playing Ashe/s76 the most. Cree is good at speciefic maps like koth-maps, but maps with highgrounds he sucks hard. And I think having map speciefic hero pick means that hero is ballanced. Tbh his kit just punishes bad closerange plays, and this kit was never changed since his release that much, and he had 47% winrate back in days, then he got these roll and reload buff, which leads him up to 52% winrate, is that much? I don’t think so. Anyway been reverted. +25 hp makes him viable but not op. He have to stay in line where all spam goes through, also his falloff is 20m.

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dude. what in the F are you arguing??? and no i dont even play the game LOL

My argument was simple: why should anyone take your word for anything over blizzard?

oh this must be thrillho on his 2nd account, same pfp, asking idiotic questions that literally have no place in the discussion. is it you thrillho? harassing from a different account?

Dude…chillax already.

You still didnt explained how your reply debunks anything Ive said

that ashe is almost played as much as cree? what is there to debunk

That Mccree gets played in brawlier comps more than Ash is surprising for you?

Like what is your point, pickrates without context mean nothing

what does OWL have to do with ladder? im not in owl

What has this to do with anything of my argument?

You use Mccree in brawlie comps and Ash in spammy comps, not hard to understand

Thats the case regardless if its Ladder or OWL

so you think before every game the team agrees to not run mccree because they are forming more of a spammy comp? or are you just saying random things and hoping one sticks

No, I say that if spammy comps are Meta you play Ash and if brawlie comps are Meta you play Cree

Look at Asian hero usage, they have a spammy Meta with Ball+Sigma/Zarya and they play a ton of Ash

On NA ladder you play a lot of Rein and play mostly cree because of that

You dont need to discuss that as a team, players wich know how to play the game know by theirself that certain Hereos work better with certain comps.

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I just ask you to explain how Mccree getting used in brawly Metas proofes that he is broken?

so let me get this straight youre saying that mccree isnt spam because he isnt the first draft pick in spam comp, and he can only thrive in brawl, and that ashe being still less picked than cree, but picked more in asia, means that in fact ashe is the best, and mccree isnt op

im really trying hard to follow where youre going, mccree can be good in any comp as he can counter any hero, so i really dont understand where this is going