But countering him is so fun and kind of easy with the right hero. I can just hear the rage on the other side of the mic every time I do. The best is when he uppercuts Ana and you sleep him in mid air. I know Ana is not a counter but that is fun too.
I honestly QUIT matches where i just HEAR his animation sounds.
The game is already over in my mind.
Yes, this includes COMP matches.
Doomfist’s problem is he either hard counters or gets hard countered, and based on the amount of hard counters he has and the “average balance” following that suit, the counters might not even works against him because his beefiness compensates for that and to counter him w/ delayed abilities u have to be wary about him all the time.
He can’t have hypermobility, beefyness and lethal burst damage at the same time, 1 has to go. Compensate buff the other 2 all they want, it’d make him more fun than not.
And based on where the fun of playing him comes, the lethal burst dmg prob will have to go.
I guess it’s time to re-introduce bleed mechanics.
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I wouldn’t leave comp games over him. But I have significantly less fun when he’s in the match on either end.
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I think that’s why I’m not a fan.
They reworked Torb because he was apparently “feast or famine”, but…that’s literally Doomfist.
The fact he can instakill his counters is also awkward (barring Roadhog, because he’s too chonky for that). That’s why I have to babysit him relentlessly. Never give him a second to breathe because he can just instakill anyone at a given time.
and IDK it seems like Doomfist players’ fun and his enemy players’ fun will never co-align. Which sucks. I want to be okay with this hero but I can’t help that he singlehandedly sucks the fun out of the game just by existing because of how he shifts the way that everyone has to play.
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Tracer is just an annoying gnat to Doomfist. I’ve seen Doomfist players land a great percentage of rocket punches or slams to force recall. Tracer is not enough.
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I need to prob elaborate, torb’s “feast or famine” is map and side dependant, not even dependant on hero interactions, while doomfist is literally “feast or famine” on heroes, which is arguably worse cuz the effort of picking him up effectively is not proportional to the effort of picking up some of his counters and play them as effective as he does, let alone him having a faster “switch-to-battle” transition time. His ult taking very little part of his power level also makes him a hero that don’t mind being switched in just for his tideturning w/ 0% ult charge.
I’d say tho, same works in an extent for genji and tracer, so that’s hardly an excuse.
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Almost everyone hates playing against Doomfist. Trash design is trash.
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That’s why I don’t suggest nerfs or anything. I just needed to vent and let the universe know how much I hate him. :3
Not crazy at all, and I have the same thought. According to the lore, Doom is an accomplished martial artist. I’d like for him to actually feel like a martial artist instead of a self-piloting nuclear bomb.
I’d love it if he had different combos and actual fighting moves.
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Thats because low rank dooms are bad. I knew that if your profile is open its gonna be a low rank and I was right. That explains why you dont have problems with him. This is also why widow is considered fine to play against in low ranks too. I assure you, if you had to play against GM dooms you would change your mind. Im not rank shaming, Its just how it is. Widow is broken in GM but anyone who says opposite is always in low rank where widows are simply bad.
I don’t think you would have gone into their profile if they said that Doomfist was problematic…
Idk profile snooping to try to invalidate their opinions isn’t fair or right IMO. There are people in high ranks who hold the same opinion.
All of it’s subjective. Fun is subjective, and so is my lack of it when I go against Doomfist.
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THIS, he’s a literal chore to play against. You either sit on him all game as one of his counters or else he runs around doing whatever he wants since most heroes can’t properly deal with him and his ridiculous combination of CC, mobility, and burst.
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I totally get what you’re feeling. He’s the type of character that is fun in how he prevents others from having fun. That is Doomfist in a nutshell. Does what he does just because he can and it’s honestly why we need more than just one stun hero in the comp to lock him down. It’s the same with Hammond for me as well.
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I think some people enjoy dominating one hero like this, and that’s fine. It’s just not my cup of tea. ): I like playing and coordinating with my team and not having to be the “Keep Doomfist in check for 90% of the match” teammate…because I miss out on everything else.
On the flip side, it also makes me wonder if having to have heroes who shut him down as hard as they do is truly healthy on either end…if that’s what it takes to keep him at bay, that seems…unfortunate to me. 
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It’s actually the best response in this thread, because it’s directed at you. Every other comment is either agreeing with you but then suggesting nerfs, or saying that you just don’t know how to play against Doomfist when you say that you can and do. You’ve either got people who just want the hero destroyed because they think he’s too strong or people who think you’re bad at the game, where the point you’re making is that you don’t like the hero. It’s not a balance reason, it’s not a risk/reward reason, it’s not because you can’t handle the hero, it’s you don’t want to deal with him regardless of your ability to.
And to that, I respond “get over yourself.” You don’t like playing against him, regardless of how balanced he is. Too bad. He’s going to be in some of your games. You can handle countering him. You can and do win matches just by dealing with him. But you don’t want to. You don’t like it.
Then don’t do it. You have to decide if the joy of playing the game is more fun than actually winning the game, and if that’s a choice you have to consciously make then you should probably take a break from Overwatch.
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I believe that mobility + displacement on a single hero is a mistake. I didn’t really have issues with the STUNS in the game (McCree flash, Ana Sleep, Mei Freeze, Brig Bash) as they are mostly on low-no mobility heroes and have caveats to their use (ammo for Mei, shield break for Brig, wind-up + cooldown for Ana).
It’s the DISPLACEMENTS on hypermobile heroes that is truly frustrating to deal with and generates that feeling of helplessness as you get constantly knocked about unless you run VERY specific compositions.
It’s disgusting that you tried to justify this, Xaron.
“Get over yourself” is such a stuck-up and ignorant response to someone who:
- Acknowledges that they’re just frustrated
- Acknowledges my feelings are personal and not universal
- Acknowledges that the hero shouldn’t have balance changes based on that
- Disagrees with people in this thread who took my side based on what they said
You jumped to a lot of conclusions. I can do things and am willing to do them, but I do not have to enjoy them. And if your response to me clearly acknowledging the above from the get-go is, “get over yourself”, then I’m not sure what to tell you other than that you’re horribly misguided and awful for thinking that response is appropriate to a CLEARLY LABELED rant thread.
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doomfist literally ruins overwatch for over 50% of the population (gold/plat) and has no counters at that level of play
he should either be a tank and remove his insane damage, or they should nerf either his mobility or surviability.
owl should not dictate everything where the rest of the community suffers. he is absolutely broken op to the point where contemplating quitting after getting smashed in 3 straight games by an average doomfist is valid. especially when there are other great shooting games out there
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I would say this case for widowmaker is 10x worse. Doomfist is atleast in your team doing stuff and counterable. Meanwhile widowmaker sits across the map with a one shot on no cooldown just waiting to happen. It forces you to basically hide the entire game and you don’t even get to play properly.
I can think of 5 heroes in this game that force you to go a counter and babysit them… it’s not some special case for doomfist.