Have you tried calling them trash? Many people believe that’s helpful feedback and can improve play.
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The real trick is to start an impromptu lesson about utilizing corners mid-game (the best time for teaching). If you’re fast enough, the tank will level up their game sense by about half way, allowing you to full hold on defence.
If that doesn’t work, I’m afraid your only option is to type “tank diff” in all chat and leave before anyone can respond.
You spelled Lifeweaver wrong.
No? JQ, Sigma, Winston, Ball, Hazard and Doom all have a higher floor and ceiling. Meaning at best Rein is middle of the pack for tanks.
Bad design does not mean high skill ceiling.
In 5v5? Rein has a higher skill ceiling than all other tanks, simply because literally every other Tank will dogwalk a bad Rein. Thats not even putting in tank or shield busters into the mix, or a decent Mei. Kinda like Doom, theres a very fine line between feeding your brains out or running the lobby. Rein is the gamesense tank, not the technical tank.
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The biggest mistake I see with bad riens… Is simply never using that gosh darn charge!
like really that sigma who burned his rock who has wall directly behing him and is at half health stalling with a barrier or pushing into our team with grasp…
Will die! jus ju jst do it man…
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I have been considering Kiri as a secondary. I can do this
Lúcio is one of the few Supports I have 0 confidence in my ability to play. It would end up being Floorcio because every time I touch a wall during a fight I die. A shame because I love the idea of playing Lúcio
This is something I can get behind. I’m interested in trying Zen as a secondary in general too
I hope it’s soon, but I have a feeling it isn’t. That probably happens somewhere in Masters or something
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If your Reinhardt is feeding, he’s distracting the enemy team. That’s when your team should move in.
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^ Yes, and I do, but I’m just one Support. So it’s a 2v5 with no DPS passive to help us
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Then it’s a you issue. We all have holes in our skillset and yours is playing with Rein.
You seemed to very focuses on healing rein… the more you pump rein full of health the more he’ll have to do because he has to make use of that healing or you’ll have zero impact. Rein isn’t a hero that falls over take your time to dps or enable the other dps and only heal him when needed and when it isn’t at your expense.
I understand, you might feel like oh if I don’t heal him I’ll dies… .if you heal him at the expense of the team you take value away from your team. If you only heal him when it’s good to most tanks will adapt to that and if they can’t there not worth the resources anyway.
As a tank it’s VERY annoying when both supports pocket me because I have to constantly stop and wait for them to heal the dps… when supports only heal when it’s good to I can play at a pace more suited to the team.
What that guy is doing is worse…. Especially choosing to have no value until the rein changes… imagine being the dps and other support in that game… a bad rein and LW that care more about sending a message than winning.
As for LW and Rein… it’s a bad combo because you won’t really understand how much value rein is getting or how long he can last and resetting his positioning is almost as bad as him dying as any good team should use the free space to roll your team as it takes time and positioning for rein to get value. Not to say pulls can’t be good on Rein but you need communication and understanding which is near impossible unless you play with them a lot. I won’t play Rein with LW or the other way around for this reason as the synergy is terrible.
Either way, Juno can be a great combo with Rein if you know when to speed boost him and know when to dps/heal.
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Dunno, I enjoy having rein on my team.
It’s good that you’ve recognized that you struggle with reins, so it means that is one avenue you can focus on improving with.
If a rein is particularily aggressive, my tip as ana player is just to enable their madness as much as possible.
With juno your biggest help to rein will be smart speed ring usage.
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I was just repeating what Spilo says: an overwatch league coach. And I agree with his opinion. Rein has a really high skill ceiling. He is not a bad design at all. 5v5 makes him look like that.
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The stats suggest you are completely wrong. But let’s just ignore reality and go with what you say…
Can’t. Cooldown is unreasonably oppressive. The cd we get for removing a negative effect on grip should be the default cd to start with.
This is the correct response. I give feeders the benefit of the doubt the first few times but if it’s a pattern then they’re just expendable distractions that I can use to get picks or backdoor an objective.
Some Rein and Mauga players are like this for me. Had a Mauga the other day who wouldn’t stop exploding on entry so he threw and decided to sled emote the rest of the game while asking people what they wanted for christmas.
If you’re on LW then it must always be done. Dive you must. Dive you shall. I only heal if I have to.
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Spilo has never said that… you need to try again.
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Literally watching that video while typing that lol.
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Speaking of, I just had a QP game last night where I was practicing Kiri and almost ended 50/50 (4,652 damage, 5,143 healing). I ended up getting the POTG to boot which was fun 
In case anyone is curious: T4S7Y4
I’m so down for adopting Kiri as a secondary. The good games are very satisfying. TPing away from the enemy team when they all turn to look at you on the flank and throw their Tank at you is hilarious. As a bonus, I’d also have a perfect excuse to hype up before playing by listening to BABYMETAL (“MEGITSUNE”, of course, most especially)
RIGHT actually as for the topic of this entire thread, during that same QP session, I also had a Kiri match with a typical Rein on our team and we managed to win 
C83ESQ
IDK if me playing Kiri was the only difference, but still. Interesting
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LW isn’t going to fix a feeding Rein. You can pull him all you want to tilt the Rein and feel like you have control over the situation. But has this ever actually worked resulting in a win? If so, I would love to see a replay code.
If you have an aggressive Rein you basically have 2 options. Work with him or lose. It’s not unwinnable if the Rein can at least get value when given the abundant resources he demands.
Your tank is the QB of the team. He calls the shots and it’s up to the other roles to adapt and enable him, not the other way around. Sometimes they will be useless no matter how much you enable them but those games are unwinnable either way.
1:10 This is bad positioning by you.
1:25 Reinhardt charges in and creates oodles of space, but you hold S.
2:45 In the amount of time that it took you to build up just one ultimate Rein has already built his second one
3:30 Rein goes in deep, the team should be following up. Probably should have been a bit more proactive with your ultimate and used it early.
4:55 Poor positioning/use of TP. Could have played around cover a bit better and had more confidence in yourself to take the one 1v1 against that Venture. You die and then the Reinhardt dies afterwards
7:15 Rein feeds here but manages to kill Ana and you win the fight as a result, as well as have the spawn advantage as it will take a lot longer for Ana to get back
8:05 Rein gets opening pick on Venture despite one of your teammates having died
9:55 Rein’s shatter here single-handedly wins the teamfight
10:28 Rein gets the opening pick again and you win the teamfight
Rein hardcarried this game and diffed the enemy tank. If this is your typical Rein, then they’re not the reason you’re losing games.
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But “did I successfully enable him enough” is the big question. If he would have won without me even existing, that would make whatever I did moot
If Kiri is the answer to enabling and getting free wins from these Reins, then I will Kiri for our LIFE
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