Hell nah, Rein/Zarya was hella fun.
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heaven.
If only it was real in overwatch, since it was not for most people.
the perceived relative strength or weakness of a character that one pays to access immediately is absolutely irrelevant to whether a game is pay to win or not
As soon as some of the 6v6 people could explain to me why we suddenly would have DOUBLE the amount of tank players to even have the queue times we have now, with weaker tanks and DPS being cosmetic again, then please do.
Oh, and please also fix tank synergy that tanks with synergy are not too strong with, but not too weak without synergy. If someone really would provide me this kind of stuff, I would be full on the 6v6 train.
I still remember when 6v6 meant waiting 10+ minutes per match because so many players hated to tank. This might be one of the reasons OW2 went 5v5 with only one tank. It would be fun to rotate between 5v5 and 6v6 as a monthly event, but tanks would have to be debuffed to compensate for having two per team again.
I mean it is.
You donât not need to have the new characters to climb to GM.
Most people are comfortable with only 1 or 2, and thatâs usually to work around situations were their main was pick.
As long as you can kill things or set up kills for others, you are as viable as any other hero.
As long as that is true, well⌠itâs kind of hard for anything to be pay to win. When the new heroes donât give you inherent advantages, or maintain such through the period their sold.
While at the same time you can grind them out for free. Well before the pass expires.
Like I had my BP cleaned up in the first 2 weeks of itâs launch. And that was playing casually.
shrug
regardless of all of the above, the game being called OW2 is a pay to win game because it meets the definition of pay to win
further, this game is becoming more strongly pay to win with almost every new season
It doesnât, no.
You would have to lock power behind paywalls that give you objective advantages over players that do not pay.
OW2 does not paywall hereos.
And they do not give you an objective and obvious advantage over other players. AS the vast majority of them have had to be buffed a few times post launch.
Pay to skip the wait isnât pay to win.
Still toxic in itâs own way do to fomo and the like.
But isnât going to give a quick and easy way to climb ranks or anything.
actually, the game being called OW2 absolutely meets the definition of pay to win
as such, it is a pay to win game
further, the devs have already admitted to paywalling heroes, and have stated that they intend to remove it
There wonât be 6v6, it is physically impossible w/o devs spending 2-3 more years recreating removed assets from ow1. They hard committed to it.
I mean if have any sort of logic to why that is, I would like to see it.
if not you really donât have an argument.
Again itâs not paywall the act that lets you earn them for free both while during and after the event. Prevents it from being such by default.
Thatâs like saying Resident evil 4 remake has a paywall for itâs extra content, when you can in fact unlock it all by just normal play.
They donât like the situation, as that was more so a business decision made by some one above the OW team. âMost likely bobbyâ
And wish to undo do that.
But isnât paywalled by any means.
there is no argument, as there is a definition of the term and the game being called OW2 absolutely meets said definition
the devs have stated that they understand they have paywalls in the game and are working towards removing them
with that even aside, player A pays and gets immediate access to in-match resource x. Player B makes no payment, and does not get immediate access to in-match resource x. that is a paywall
so yes, there is a paywall involved
except in-match resources are absolutely paywalled in the game being called OW2
Pretty sure I repeatedly explained it to you in the past already, but you probably muted notifications from me after correcting you so many times. You spam the same questions but you donât actually want to hear answers for them, wasting everyoneâs time like always.
Anyway, high queue times or terrible matchmaking are purely role queue issues. Just get rid of it then actually fix the root issues with the game instead of forcing more nonsense like 2-2-2 or 5v5.
You are correct, your not providing one.
Your just stating that this is a pay wall.
Be it Iâm pretty much done with this conversation, have a good day tho.
No argument need to be provided, as it is a simple matter of looking at the game being called OW2, and evaluating it against the standard definition of pay to win
when evaluated against the definition, the game being called OW2 is absolutely a pay to win game
If you have one, I would like to see it.
Till then have a good one.
Its not my definition
it is the standard definition of pay to win, freely available on the net
Pick one, just post it. If you want to make this argument, itâs your responsibility to provide the context. Not mine.
Also donât forget to leave the source while your at it.
unnecessary, as it is freely and publicly available to all
and again, thereâs no argument involved - it is a simple matter to comparing item x to definition y, and saying yes, x meets the definition of y
Well their are many different specific definitions, that have slight variations in what might be included under the term Pay 2 win or pay wall. Which one are you going by?