But with los, small range, and cast time she would be easy to kill before she gets rez off. It could end up op but remembering before she got invincibility rez was usually just suicide it would be fine. I think it would be something they would need to test first for sure because you don’t know what’s op for sure until it’s in the ptr.
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Oh sorry, was you speaking?
Nobody cares, move along please
Please add to the thread or debate. Clearly people do care judging by the amount of feedback this thread is getting.
Umm, no mercy mass rez was ever a guaranteed 6 man rez either. You were lucky if everyone died all at the same time and on point. In a lot of situations holding mass rez for a 6 man would result in losing the fight in the end. I’ve seen plenty of Mercy mass rez a team wipe only for a second team wipe to immediately ensue.
Literally only mercy mains.
The rest of us know she is balanced.
As for her being boring, NOTHING mechanically has EVER changed about her. So if she’s boring, then she’s always been boring and more fool you for falling in love with playing her.
“Rework as boring” is another way of saying “she’s not OPAF anymore and I can’t carry games, make her op again”.
Yes she is balanced. I never said she wasn’t. When I say she is boring I mean her ultimate. It is her regular game play with less thinking. I don’t care if they make her f-tier as long as she is fun again. I’m not saying I want her to be op which is why I’m not saying put valk back to how it was in the beginning or make her invincible during rez. I personally think mercy 1.0 would be fine as she was underpowered, at least to the devs. That’s why she was buffed and eventually reworked in the first place. I don’t play her anymore since she’s boring but I still care about how she ends up.
This is the patch where mass rez was buffed because the devs thought she needed it (she didn’t)
Either way I’m not saying “bring mass rez back and make her op because I’m brainless, sad, and want the game to slowly die while mercy reigns supreme!” I’m saying her ultimate sucks for many people and rez on E is op. She needs a rework or revert with a rework more likely.
Let’s be fair and say only the 1.0 fanatics. A lot of mercy mains I play with will talk about missing 1.0 but recognize it was completely broken and know she is balanced now.
She doesn’t need to be invincible. Half of the knockbacks that are supposed to stop her from rezzing now don’t break it anyway. There is nothing OP about Mercy now, but if we were going to say anything was OP it would be that she has rez at all.
So when the suggestion is remove call, put Rez on the ult, but as single target, and boost the rest of her kit so she is balanced, it sounds like we don’t want her balanced?
Whatever is going on in your head you have problems.
I played Mercy consistently until her last nerf. I find she is simply less effective than other healers now; I easily out heal her on Lucio, Moira, etc. I’ve seen Brigs outheal Mercy.
That said, I will still play her in strategic moments. Holding up a bastion or Rein/Orissa at a must win moment, the damage boost and rez have their place.
That all said, it’s kinda nice for people to not demand a Mercy on the team now.
I’m saying her being invincible during rez is bad. No one thinks that’s a good idea lol
When Mercy says die on point… OW Forums Jun 2017
Die on the point I have Rez". - OW Forums Aug 2017
Die On Point - Apr 2017
This last one is very important
Why Did We Change Mercy in the first place? - Blizzard Dev Update
They changed her because of hide and rez specifically.
I’m sorry, what was that?
It’s more complex than that. It means put your all into the fight regardless because mercy can fix your mistakes. If the team is getting wiped then yes mercy would and should leave and hide. It does not mean everyone die in a cluster so I can get POTG. I’m not going to read all the forum posts bc I don’t agree with how they usually word them and I also disagree with hiding for a big rez. Hiding not meaning taking cover for a brief second. Again the reason it was ever an issue was invulnerability. Before that she wasn’t used as much and was underpowered.
Smart mercys usually tempo rezzed instead of thirsting after POTG
a handful of smart mercys dont make up for the sea of bad mercys.
That’s fair but what about genji mains who go after the quantity of kills over how much value they actually have? (Using him as an example bc he used to be my main)
I think your right. I also would like to add context
Hide and Rez wasn’t a dumb play. If everyone was fighting as hard as they could, they would likely kill a target or two, and leave everyone else hurt. When the team was Rezed they would be fully healed vs a hurt team who was down on heroes.
Also it gave crazy Sr.
So old mercy was a problem, but new mercy is also a problem. Part of the update was to make her stronger outside of Rez/valk. Because people were complaining that her kit was anaemic outside of them.
Well, they made her kit outside of Rez/valk more anaemic rather than less.
So the rework was a failure in that sense anyway.
I agree with that, I get very salty about hide and rez bc I hate it lol
So people are after her working, which she is awfully close to. But, it means putting a bullet in valk (most likely) since it is taking up a bunch of power in her kit.
We can’t go back to 5 Rez mercy, and if you take pin on single target res as an ability it is too strong. As seen by the moth meta.
Which is why the, put single target Rez on as her ult, but non pinning.
Now she doesn’t have a strong ult, nor a strong ability.
Yay, we can actually boost her day to day kit giving her the ability to change what is going on in the combat outside of her res/ult.
Craptastic play is still crap, but they aren’t the same. Genji that cares about kills and focuses that isn’t as bad as a team wipe -1 that immediately gets undone with the press of Q. Both have value, but Mercy undoing a teams hard work killing everyone should never have been able to be undone with 1.0s mass rez ability and that is why most people hated that ability.
She is an entry level hero. She is supposed to be the starter support, not the best or most vital support, and even so she is still the best ST healer. The rest of them either heal slower [lucio aoe] or have ammo consumption related to their kits.