I Dont Know What To Do Anymore

I watched your vid. I review these differently than other people, it’s not fair to tell you what you should have done based on what a GM player would have done, I’m going to tell you what I would expect a Gold1/Plat4 player to do.

The first point you hadn’t even picked your hero when the round started and your Rein probably thought the game was going to be cancelled so he charged into the enemy and dies. He was dead before you even got to the point. If you had been there I actually think he would have survived with you and mercy healing him. He didn’t which snowballed into them taking the point. I’m going to at least partially blame you for this, partially on Rein for assuming match was cancelled. A gold 1 player should know to have their hero picked and ready to support when the match begins. The other team will have more ult charge than your team so the repercussions of this mistake are going to be felt for awhile.

The second stand off at the gate was debatable if it was your fault or not. You were holding the choke until bastion ulted you. I would argue that if you had better movement when you heard the bastion ult begin that you could have survived but I’m not sure most gold 4’s would have survived so I’ll just say it was a great play by their bastion… The choke was lost because of your death but it’s not really your fault.

Next standoff: Your team was holding just fine, the genji dies because he made a mistake so if you lose this hold it’s his fault, but your Orisa was smart enough to know to equal the playing field by using an ult and getting a kill, and you were smart enough to nano boost her which helped get the kill and even the playing field, great work, you’re holding the choke again. But then instead of healing your orisa you shoot at the enemy team and your Orisa dies. You could have shot your Orisa and healed her and you had a heal nade! 100% she dies because of you. You throw the nade after the orisa was dead. So now your mercy corrects your mistake by using her resurrection on Orisa, she leaves the Ashe for two seconds and Ashe dies because you didn’t heal her. If you hadn’t of wasted your nade a moment ago the ashe would have lived, or if you had simply hit your shots on her right in front of you then she would have lived. Think about how the mercy feels, she leaves for two seconds to rez your mistake and you let the person she was just healing die, right in front of you! Despite the Ashe dying you possibly had a chance of holding it but then Orisa stepped into a trap and you missed all your shots on her despite being zoomed in and she dies because of you. You were given about three chances to hold that choke and it was lost all three times because of mistakes you made.

The fourth standoff was lost because of you. You were getting engaged by the other teams Orisa, you were at half health and instead of healing yourself with your nade and surviving you threw it at her and she killed you. There is no way you should have died there. From there it snowballs and your team never recovers from that mistake and they get to the next checkpoint.

Next standoff is lost because of your Ashe and mercy. Not on you.

From there you hold the choke and the enemy doesn’t get the third checkpoint.

NEXT ROUND:

You guys take first point.

Pushing fine until genji dies, its his mistake. You probably could have saved it and kept pushing but I wouldn’t expect that from Gold1 / Plat 4 so I don’t hold you accountable. Not your fault.

Your team regroups and you start pushing, your ashe dies, it was her fault, you definitely could have saved her but again nobody should expect higher level play from you so not your fault. A diamond would have known to assist your ashe in taking high ground and could have grabbed her to safety or started healing her, but again, not your fault. Your DVA goes in a little too far and she gets out of Mek, you definitely could have saved her by peaking through and healing but you just didn’t. You didn’t really have a decent chance of dying so no reason not to. If you had lost this push it would have been your fault but somehow you guys recover and take the checkpoint. No harm no foul.

Everyone does a decent job until the cart gets close to the winning checkpoint. There was a moment where your DVA got out of mek but didn’t have to (you could have grabbed her out), she wasted her DVA bomb, you had poor placement with tree of life. The last point not getting taken wasn’t necessarily your fault, I’d put that more on the DPS. HOWEVER, I’m not sure the other team would have ever made it that far had you not made the mistakes in the first half. I wouldn’t put the loss on you but I’d say if you have put a different Gold4 / Plat 1 healer in there there’s a very good chance your team would have won.

The matchmaker is definitely broken, but I can’t give this one to you. You made too many basic mistakes eve at this tier. You didn’t even have anything diving you. You were free to just stand there and heal and still made mistakes, I think your team would have won if you had just healed at those key moments.

I would say based on what I observe that you’re probably playing at around a Gold 3/4 level of play. The game should have never let you get into plat (assuming you solo queued, if you grouped then that’s a different story) which shows the matchmaker is broken.

The matchmaker is broken but this was probably a fair match.

See i review these things so differently lol.
I aint gm but i have a good enough grasp on support to know how to climb out of these ranks and how to have more impact.

Like yeah every single point you made was right, but i was more focused on how to have more impact itself on the heroes. Mistakes happen regardless, so i figured if you have more impact there is more pressure on the enemy team as well and the mistakes will have less impact upon the game. People will also just become better over time and those mistakes happen less. Hence i didnt mentioned things like if you heal this person this happens and you win the fight anways etc.

Also i didnt mention things like this person makes a mistake and fight is lost cous you cant help that or have impact upon that anyways 99% of the time.

Also low plat support is allot less skilled then you think it is imo. Its more towards gold gameplay then it is towards diamond obviously, but the impact is like severly less then i think you realise in low plat.

For this back in Overwatch 1 I made it all the way to masters basically hit the max sr in diamond plummeted down and managed to stay in low diamond high plat until OW2 released. Which is all irrelevant to know since it’s a newish game but still felt like worth noting. Ana isn’t my strongest hero pick as I mainly do Mercy/Moira. With Weaver I’m still trying to get a handle on how to play him in the sense of positioning and timing. I don’t disagree with a lot of what u said DPSing at the wrong times, missing shots that are easy to hit and so forth you’re overall correct. But to say the game never should’ve let me get into plat is a bit drastic to say based off 1 game of playing probably my 2 weakest support picks. If another game arises where it’s a loss/win that felt pretty balanced and I’m playing Moira/Mercy I’ll go ahead and post the code for that game as well probably most likely a loss would be a better one to share since that one is prone to have more mistakes just to get more feedback as to what I’m doing wrong with them as well.

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See i do think you should be in plat, you already stated that ana wasn’t your strongest hero. I also do you see you have the right ideas and are trying to make plays. Hence the things i wrote down will increase the effectiveness of what you are trying to do.
You also had a good grasp of how to nullify the enemy orisa, you did so multiple times.
In gold people rarely make plays on support because they are too busy healing or are completely unaware of half the stuff thats happening.
That did not seem to be the case from what i saw. You just had trouble getting the effectiveness high enough to make the plays regularly. Partly because of positioning, party because of missing cooldowns.

I will say I got a game on Hollywood tonight and I played Weaver for most of it and I took some of ur advice on the positioning and ability usage and we won most of our fights and won the match. I also applied some of ur advice on Ana on a different map and it helped a lot. I rarely died and was able to keep people up from a safe distance and we also won that game. Cooldowns with her are still iffy as well as aim but it’s a learning process.

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Everyone should be like this.

Listen, learn, improve.

Well played.

Nice! Glad it helped and great you are already utilising those things and actively thinking about it.

Cooldown usage and aim just takes practice and time. Keep at it and you will improve on that as well.

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Totally agree. My biggest thing holding me back on ana is wasting cooldowns. I have a terrible habit of just yeeting sleep dart into the wild yonder hoping to hit something.

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I didnt watch the replay but a general rule around the mid ranks to apply pressure evenly on the whole team or isolated player.

If i see my team just focusing enemy tank then i will shoot the backline to force resources out of them or get a kill.

Think of it like this.

If you get a leaver, you know its a high chance of a loss. If your support leaves its an even higher chance.

So by keeping the enemy supports/dps busy or killing them, you take them out of the fight for 20ish seconds. Giving your team a better chance at winning the fight.

Its ok if you dont get the kill, but making them use resources on you, running or hiding, you’re taking away the value they could be using on winning the fight.

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Agreed, I was just basing my opinion on the information I have, the one replay I saw.

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It’s definitely a learning process, and you are already better just for doing those things, but keep in mind in order to actually rank up significantly you can’t just play better than you have before, or even better than everyone at your tier, you need to play around 2000SR above your current rank. The process goes like this:

Listen, learn, improve, go on a win streak, go on a loss streak, stay at relatively the same tier but play against more difficult opponents.

Is it possible to rank up? Sure, but you will have to improve astronomically in order to do that.