The new map designs they’ve shown us from the new locations seem to offer way more flank routes, a more vertical design and corners to move through
Sightlines for the new maps seem much shorter than the long lanes we are used to. Also, the “payload” and Push bot tend to take more turns than the maps on live meaning less pressure for there needing to be a tank “blocking the point” (compared to our long sniper/bulletstorm lanes on live)
The devs history of reworking old maps to match their current game philosophy or fix problematic areas (Moving health packs, Eichenwald, Horizon, Paris and…Horizon and Paris again haha) and the fact that the changes to OW2 practically demand map reworks
Also…
This part of the pvp stream where they mention that they are adding more cover to past maps and how King’s row is lacking in any cover
OW2 PVE vid showing how they are adjusting maps, especially as they add whole new sections for hero missions. (but hey, maybe they just won’t add any of that, huh…)
You honestly have zero clue what you’re talking about. Blizzard can’t magically release what they are working on a year out for their next release to “try out” to see if the community likes it.
Doing some wonky 5v5 mode without the new maps, all the new hero changes, new heroes, etc. would be completely pointless.
It would be nice, but not a fair test because many tanks will and are already getting big changes to balance them for 5v5. I mean…if you want 6v6, just don’t buy OW2 when it comes out? lol
not really it’s gonna be the same sh1t but really bad they saied the same things with role queue that they could balance it to so it dosent break the game they can easly do it but are unable to do so you ppl are the most gullible pll i’ve ever seen to think they will make 5v5 even romeotely good holy sh1t
What has one to do with the other?
Buying OW2 only gives you access to the new PvE content.
Everyone who owns OW1 will get the PvP updates for free - no matter if they want them or not.
I mean, have you tried the AI mode in OW1? Seem Junk’s revenge and other events? I’m really not holding my breath hoping for anything other than pre-programmed pathing for OW2 PvE.
It wouldn’t make sense to put 5v5 as experimental because it wouldn’t be balanced the way OW2 is going to be, so people would get a very wrong idea of how it would play out
Man, what is with people making strange topics and necroing 3-year old threads?
Like, are people that desperate for attention during this long weekend? Some of us really need to go play something, ANYTHING, as opposed to posting their strange stuff on the forums.
Part of me wishes Blizz would’ve done a free play weekend on all of its games (yes, even World of Warcraft) during this long weekend so people would have less incentive to crap-post on the forums.
Well well, it seems Blizzard is not confident enough on 5v5 to let us test it… The so-called “balancing” must have been far more excruciating they had anticipated.
They’re busy balancing, and setting up the maps to benefit from it. They’re also adding whole other heroes that could change the whole game.
They can’t put it on to the ExC because they don’t have enough stuff done to do it. If they just put 5v5 on, and their incomplete hero balancing, ignoring the maps not even being made or change to benefit from it, we wouldn’t even be able to give accurate feedback on what they actually have in store.
Nope. It wouldnt work in OW1, not in the mess its in. Unlike the first, OW2 is designed from the ground up with the OWL being prioritized, Blizzard’s FPS direction will be fully done there. Also, teamwork’s going away in that one & there are new maps that are actually designed around natural cover.
OW1 on the other hand, still team based despite the DPS favoritsm & all the maps are designed for 6v6.
An OW2 beta needs to come around to test 5v5. And I still dont get why some people have an issue with it. Heck, the 5v5 change is also partly due to those same people complaining about GOATs & Double Shields.
If, next week, Blizz put out a 5v5 Ex Card it would be terrible; people would hate it. The game isn’t balanced for it yet. You maybe fail to get that every hero is being rebalanced for 5v5, even small details you probably hadn’t considered. So there is no way to have every aspect of balance done now when they’re still working on it and playtesting internally.
5v5 is good for the health of the game. And at this point, even if 90% of the players said no, it is too late to stop the ball from moving. They’ve been building OW2 with 5v5 in mind for years now. They can’t throw all that away, the loss would be wild.
It’s not just ‘beefier tanks, but one less per team’. Every hero will need balance tweaks to fit in. Even maps are being updated to accommodate this. It wouldn’t be a remotely accurate playtest…but the best we do have are workshop modes where players have made viable 5v5. Obviously the maps are the same, but a huge group of content creators and well known players came forth and gave their input for how they think heros could be balanced for 5v5, and the workshop creators made a mode as best they could with the tools available to them. Have you tried it? It’s pretty fun! There were some heros they couldn’t do much of anything to (like Bastion, iirc) because no one knows what to do with him, or how Blizz plans on balancing him…and some heros didn’t have what I feel are meaningful 5v5 changes…but it’s not a bad scope for fan ideas, anyway.
