I get the feeling you really have no idea what you’re talking about, and you would prefer not to understand what you’re talking about.
This isn’t splitting hairs. The person who creates character models and maps and makes the game look pretty does not earn anything anywhere near the engineers who develop the software.
Even then the starting salary for a designer is $88k.
The median salary is $115k.
$115k to make designs.
Three-to-four times the median national income.
Was about to make this distinction with the $130K-$200K claim but it was stated here.
I only feel bad for them in the sense that even if they want to do better they still might not be able to due to interference from higher ups and execs. The devs just take all the blame for it because it’s intuitive to think they’re to blame even when they’re not.
This is a hill Im willing to die on. 5v5 was Aron Kellers thing. As soon as Jeff Kaplan left and Aron took over, BAM 5v5 announced. NOONE was talking about shifting to 5v5 before he took over. And Im also willing to die on the hill that the 1,3,2 experimental was his “thing” to see what would happen reducing the tanks. He is a carry over from the old team and I put the state of the game squarely on his shoulders.
he pushed for the 1,3,2 experimental patch though so we know he wanted one tank gone
officially anyway
Though then the Average income in a lot of states I am sure most people dont make that much
This is what Blizzard pays.
This has nothing to do with other states.
So what else is being worked on?
Yes, they are.
Game Developers are all the people making (developing) a game.
Not a Game Designers job. Youre thinking of Game Artists.
Blizzard has a job listed as “Game Designer”.
It is located underneath the category “Blizzard Entertainment Arts & Design”
Blizzard has a job listed as “Software Engineer”
It is located underneath the category “Blizzard Entertainment Engineering”
In short, engineers - once you learn the difference between an engineer and an artist - are paid significantly more for the work they do.
The job is listed under “Arts & Design”.
https://www.glassdoor.com/Salary/Blizzard-Entertainment-Arts-and-Design-Salaries-EI_IE24858.0,22_DEPT1002.htm
Imo they also havent fixed anything and only added to the “issues needed to get fixed” pile.
Incredible. Nothing you said has anything to do with what I said.
I know all of that.
And both of these Jobs are “Game Developers”. Simple as that.
A Designer is still not someone who makes Skins, like you said:
I don’t really care about this stupid Salary-discussion.
All I wanted is for you to use the correct jobs for the things you want to say.
I have said absolutely nothing incorrect.
You’re trying to use an umbrella term to include everyone involved in any part of development as a developer. When not everyone works in development. Notably the engineers and the artists.
There are teams, usually a mixture of different roles working on a set of goals. Each role comes with its own tasks and responsibilities. Creatives create concepts, art, skins, graphics and animations. Everything you see in the game was created by a designer role.
Engineers take these assets and implement them into the software, making the assets interactive, turning graphics into shaders, and putting the pieces together seamlessly so that the player experience is largely uninterrupted on update. QoL updates and bug fixes are also constantly monitored, as well as backend maintenance. Anything you interact with, an engineer made it.
Case and point, just about anyone working at Blizzard is making upwards of $100k. Explain why I should be sympathetic?
A designer designs designs.
Skins are usually based on designs. Big job, that.
Yes you did:
All of this is just wrong, and I already tried explaining why.
And again, I dont really care about that.
What are you talking about? Trying to fix something old that’s broken or done poorly is a LOT harder than building something from scratch.
So youre gonna use the correct terms and jobs now?
Good.
No, you don’t. But I also never said this is about me.
You could also continue to harm your own arguments by giving out wrong information. Your choice.
I don’t give a damn about you, I’m just interested in facts.