Pretty much all that needs to be done. Roadhog used to kill 250HP heroes when he hooked them if I’m not mistaken.
Orisa is already a huge counter to Doomfist. No need to buff her.
Sombra just needs to buy a microphone.
To begin with how are they similar in any way?
Mcree:
Rolls on the ground
Reloads weapon
No dmg
Doomfist:
Rockets himself
Does dmg
It’s a movement ability, a dash. The results are different but the mechanic is the same McCree Dash gives a free reload, Doomfist gets damage tacked on to it. Movement abilities are the same no matter what additional attributes they have, they should all work the same way in terms of mechanics if not in terms of additional effects… you’re really not very bright are you…
I like that idea, but I think it might clutter, and even calling a hack out themself,the sombra player usually finds no followup…plus he’s almost impossible to hack in most situations.
Also, we should not be buffing oppressive heroes in order to counter another oppressive hero; that is literally what has caused complaints up until now- it is called overtuning for a reason.
If we were to balance the game like that, it would be A MESS, we cant have all “similar” abilities work the same, the heroes are different, they work different, they are balanced around different.
By your logic, Blink, Rocket Punch, Swift Strike, Guardian Angel, Sprint, etc all of them should reload the hero´s gun or all should reset on kill, etc.
This thing about consistency needs to have a limit.
And AGAIN, Mcree is not an expert in acrobatics, im sure that if he tried to roll midair he would only break his neck (that would actually be funny), and if we did the opposite which is not allowing Rocket Punch to be used in the air, then he would need a lot of buff to compensate such a massive nerf.
BTW i love how you call me idiot when you cant understand how to balance (you dont even know how to quote…)
This and fixing the bugs that are wrong with sombra.
I selfishly want things to stay status quo. I have little to no interest in playing the game as is, and I have a big exam in Jan I’m studying for. But after that I’d be fine if they reined him (& Brig) in and made the game fun to play again.
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Brig already got nerfed enough and Doomfist is balanced.
You just need to git gut
So youre saying. That because your hero was unfairly ruined that others should be too?
Thats like someone being bullied their whole life only to turn around and bully another person.
Thats like someone whos fiance was killed by a drink driver, turning around and drink driving.
Should we just change every character until everyone hates them? or should we go out making mercy balanced and engaging to play
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Thats basically what he wants
I mean ill agree that mercy needs some straight up work but come on imagine going through all that mercy mains do and then wishing it on another group. Which btw is a much smaller group with much less sway. Doomfist mains would be crushed under everything with our lacking numbers
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Shall we compare mccree’s primary fire and doomfist’s primary fire. Which is more deadly standing alone? The hitscan revolver that just got a buff to its drop off range. The ability that can two shot people, vs the shotgun projectile that doesn’t come with a reload and only four shots. Maybe doomfist’s primary should be consistent with mccree’s primary. Based on your logic that is how that should work.
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It’s the words of Mr qtip himself
“Just click on her head LAWL”
The same logic applies
Mercy was changed cus she’s disheartening and unfun to play against
Doomfist is disheartening and unfun to play against.
So yes. The hero needs changes. Either that or Mercy deserves a revert one of the two.
Why show a 2 yr old hog video? Not sure what you’re trying to say here.
Not like that. It’s just asking for consistency.
My favourite hero was changed for this reason
NOw this reason applies to a hero who makes playing my second third and fourth favourite heroes all cancer while doing no favours for my fifth sixth and seventh.
I’m just asking for blizzard to be consistent with their non sense is that really so bad?
Doomfist doesnt need changes unlike old Mercy
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Yes he does. His entire kit is unfun to play against and takes an entire team to build around countering him rather then just 1 or two people swapping to his counter to try and contest him.
Yeah it is. Youre knowingly and willingly hoping others go through the same unrightful pain that you have gone through and still are. Instead of everyone trying to drag each other down and get their mains changed and destroyed why dont we advocate for mercy’s fix.
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Simple. Because the Doomfist problem of being cancer and unfun to deal with has nothing to do with Mercy. Only reason I brought her up is to showcase a bit of hypocrisy. The same reasons for changes apply to these two heroes.
The logic burned my favourite hero. Now it’s going to make playing the rest of my roster not cancer.
Also I just said rework neve said it had to be a failure of a rework. They can have an actual successful rework that leaves the hero in a decent and fun place. I don’t care as long as this piece of garbage isn’t juggling Reinthart for 20 seconds till death when he combo’s with brig.
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You dont need to build your team around him, a good Ana can sleep him quite easily, A good Mcree is a nightmare for him (trust me it is), Zen can weaken him severely, and many other ways to kill him.
And i know that because i have manage to counter him by myself