How to Fix The Ball Change (Megathread?)

[Poytheon-1466]

@ChangeSphere-1134

blizzard should honestly do this

Thank ya

@NerfMercy-2471

The current ball change they did is perfect though

I’m not quite sure about this though. I’ve seen several examples of ways that grapple breaking after 6 seconds with nothing else considered ruins things outside of Spin2win, which is the main (if not only) thing that needs to go.

@Koechophe-11425

I’ll shamelessly plug my own solution because I think it’s even less impactful on his gameplay (this one still could ruin some of the more complicated swinging rollouts)

I actually linked your suggested changes yesterday but I think they would be more impactful (in a negative way) on his gameplay compared to my suggested changes which really only target Spin2win.

Grapple breaking after 6s in combat means he can neither be damaged or deal damage within 6s or his grapple breaks. That will not change a whole lot compared to the way it’s not working on live, which people have an issue with. Ball will take & deal damage but shouldn’t necessarily have grapple break unless he is spin2win’ing.

@Yudae-1948

Would be a way better option and easier to implement in the current state. “In combat” can be considered just like it happens with Torb’s turret, where you can’t redeploy it if it attacked/was attacked in a few seconds.

I think the in combat change wouldn’t change much compared to live, which is what people are taking issue with. Grapple shouldn’t necessarily break just because you dealt or took damage in the past 6 seconds, it should really only break if you’re spin2win’ing and keeping a constant fireball by spinning in a circle continuously. That’s the cheese strat that needs removal, not pendulum swinging where you’re not constantly on fire & hitting enemies & taking small amount of damage. That’s what I think anyways.

@Yudae-1948

People will always complain about stuff. The change affects spin2win which is a problem mostly in the lower ranks, that are the ones that also would miss the infinite time for some tricks and getting back (I’m pretty sure in high ranks instead of hanging around you’d be scouting the enemy and if you grapple out of the map and won’t likely get back in 6 seconds you’d just reset).
Although spawn cooldown annoys me too, I think overall it’s healthier.

I think my suggested changes accomplish exactly this. Remove spin2win, don’t remove other tricks/strategies

@Scylaceus-1123

One of the best ideas I’ve seen on the forums tbh, lets hope by some miracle the developers read this and agree, though I feel like winning the lottery is more likely

IT’S MY LUCKY DAY BABY WOO!!

@Naph-1280

The problem of that is, ball will still be able to infinitely stall on the objective against teams who cannot hit him.

Teams who typically can not hit ball because he is max speed will be able to hit him during the 2.5 seconds he has to pause so his grapple doesn’t break. This was already thought out.

@Naph-1280

The only fair and balanced ball is a stationary ball.

This is clearly sarcasm.

If you could do the forums a favor and stop this continuous bad behavior on the forums that would be great. In the past 24 hours I’ve seen you make several rude/elitist comments, sarcastic comments not useful to the conversation, & necro at least 1 thread. Feel free to stay in the conversation, but don’t keep making comments like these.

@Naph-1280

Oh the irony

Frustration is rising, I’ll give you that

Thread necro from a month ago.

And here are a few examples of your rude/elitist comments…

@Naph-1280

you’re a brig main complaining about skill floor. ironic

@Naph-1280

can’t get more horrible than players that need help dealing with spinning balls

@Naph-1280

Sure thing buddy. Good that you are special

As Michael Jordan would say, stop it. Get some help.

@QuizzyBunny-2512

While I’m kinda happy seeing stalling in general suppressed a bit I do think at the very least Hammond players are owed some visual and auditory cues so they can plan the next step once the grapple disconnects. I also think they can revert the spawn nerf and work on a solution to letting them “hang around” without dropping.

I think the spawn nerf was a good one, and honestly if they were to just change the most recent change to what I’ve suggested here, I think only Spin2win would be nerfed while not nerfing other things Ball can do, at least not too much.