-Make 6v6 the main mode again
-Remove role queue, use that “must have at least 1 of each role in the team” rule they made. i’ll work just fine
-revert the season 9 changes for the HP value and projectile sizes
-revert back some of the garbage reworks so heroes can feel more unique again. we already have a soldier 76, we don’t need sombra and bastion to also be versions of soldier 76, revert them back to OW1.
honestly i could go on about each hero balance specifically but there nobody from blizzard even reading these forums anymore so it’s pointless and waste of time.
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Lol no thank you. Role Q is what daved the game
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Didn’t save the queue times
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I really want Bastion OW1 version. Yeah, moveable turret is great, but tank config, self-repair was unique things of Bastion. Even Bastion’s OW1 turret was fixable, just reducing transforming time like to 0.3. I was using this tactic in OW1: sit, shoot (brrrr), relocate. On Bastion in OW1 you always needed to relocate, sitting on one spot is not effective (without shields). But sure, long configuring time made it harder
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~someone give this man a job at blizzard
Can’t help but respect people so confident in their ideas
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None of this is easy; and pretty much everything stated has major pros and cons.
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Easiest thing will be to do nothing and let the game die.
You wouldn’t expect some effort to be put in?
I would have died in the hill for role queue before MR. Now I don’t think it’s needed. Especially with todays gamers being so sheep like and listening to the internet for how/what to play
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My point is the OP saying easy way to fix, and then complicated issues with people on both sides. And the suggestions having big pros and cons, like removing role queue. They might be in favour of that, a ton of the playerbase is not.
RQ has to go, there is no getting around it.
6v6 MUST happen again, or the game is dead.
With a requirement of double the tank population, there is no way that will not create enormous queues at the top level. In the last days of OW1 T500 players were waiting at least 20 mins in the busiest hours, easily an hour or more in offhours, and sometimes it was impossible to have a match created.
A requirement of minimum one of each role might work, but the days of fixed RQ is over.
Which is totally your opinion, that isn’t based on facts. You might be fine with it leaving, others are not. Again, big pros and cons.
Point is none of this is easy, none of it will for certain improve the game, especially when people have different preferences. Some like 5v5 more; other 6v6 more. Maybe they will have both as main modes someday.
Guess with the upcoming min 1 max 3 test they will get some data on that format. Get the feeling matches that are solo tank while being the weaker 6v6 tanks will feel awful, but we will see.
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It is simple deduction based on facts.
Facts are these:
- 6v6 must happen to save the game.
- To allow for 6v6, we can not force 2x tanks as tank population is too low.
Given these two facts - and IMO they are indisputable - there is no way around dropping the hard RQ.
Maybe min 1, max 3 RQ can work, but the hard RQ is history.
Of the stated issues about open que in ow they never come up in rivals. 99% of ranked games are 2-2-2 and most of qp games are very close to that format. I can only remeber a few games that were dps heavy and after one fight if it didnt work ppl switched. Ow players are so jaded thats why everyone left you guys think everyone but you is a moron.
That’s still happening now. The upper rank population is low by design, so there will be wait times regardless.
That being said, I don’t think overall wait times will be as bad this go around for 6v6 RQ. They’ve addressed some of the major tank player issues since OW1 - less hard cc, more tank variety, tanks being a bit more tanky, and no effective double shield. So we should see more tank players and less wait times for other roles.
If not, moving to a minimum one OQ system might be the solution.
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Again; those are opinions, not facts. It might be what you and some others think is best for the game. That does not make it a fact.
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i liked the stationary turret. there was pros and cons to using bastion back then. if you wanted a more mobile hitscan you play soldier, if you wanted a more defensive campy style then you got bastion. the reworked OW2 bastion is just a different flavor of soldier76 and that is just too boring. in marvel rivals no 2 heroes playstyle feels the same. used to be that way in overwatch until they were getting really lazy with the hero design and reworked other heroes to be more basic.
I am one of the few who plays tank. To improve overwatch you need to enter 1000 ignore players for half a year. For example, I can’t play, because in every match animals from bronze 100000 play for me, and for the enemy top 100 players and this is just in every match. Enemy DPS kill every second, enemy supports give a lot of healing, and my DPS can’t kill anyone, supports do not heal at all. It is impossible to play.
I have a much simpler solution, turn the servers off and walk away. It was a failed game from the mention of OW2.
I agree! The game is absolutely broken ranked! In the new Marvel game, if a player plays badly, he plays with bots, but why does he continue to ruin all the games here if he bought an account?
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