still a projectile that takes a second to spin up. not to mention mei is so Niche, you wouldnt really be in that position to often lol
DVA + Rein or Harambe + Rein
I don’t know. I’ve never had problems killing her with soldier. And obviously she’s not gonna be right next to me.
Like I said, she plays far in the back line. She takes advantage of you being bust fighting her other teammates and not focusing on her. Once you can see her, she’s not much of a problem
DVA + Winston may work better. A widow can take out half+ of Winston’s health before he lands. DVA can defense matrix him in.
In otherwords, go with Dive comp. Comp that counters Widow.
If comp can’t work; then, yea. Winston has more pick potential; but, it will be harder at longer ranges and depending on map.
DVa will be able to contest more easily; but, may struggle to get the pick alone.
You’re in gold. “Good Widows” would be in the higher ranks.
There are some good Widows in Gold; but, you can’t compare them with Widows that know how to stay alive and hit shots.
Did you just list soldier, reaper and orisa as Widow counters?
I guess gold widows must be awful and even more so if it’s console.
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Easiest is with orisa. Set up shield, widow isnt enough damage to break, shoot at general direction to where widow is she will move/retreat. Keep doing until she gets frustrated and switches off
I’m not in gold because I suck. I’m not gold because ever since I’ve moved back to Nigeria in Africa, I’ve been having issues. I hit diamond while I was in UK. I’ve had my fair share of widows.
Play your sight lines right or a dive comp.
I was kinda struggling vs a good Widow yesterday. I was playing damage for my six stack (I’m pretty bad at tank, kinda passable as support) and a Widow was just shutting us down. We pulled through eventually by just bunkering on 2CP but I’m wondering what I should learn to counter her. Does it make sense to try to gain competency at Widow just to counter her? My tank players aren’t as comfortable with dive tanks.
I get that alot the problem with bunkering is it is quite map specific and if they run widow along with something like pharah or junk and rein and zarya it is very hard to run or if there is alot of flanking routes and once you lose a squishy or two they will grind out the fight win, not to mention you are grouped up for the enemy to hit a good ult on you, even if the widow does not achieve much kill wise the value she gets from restricting the movements of an entire team and enabling her team is undeniable.
As Reaper I kill a lot of Widows.
Dive requires alot of coordination to pull off even in a LFG 6 stack and your players may not have the experience and skill on the heroes required to pull it off, whereas all widow has to do is get her pocket mercy to heal her as she grapples away, even worse often she is sniping so far back that you need to push forward usually past a spamming junk or pharah just to reach her and by that time you usually have lost a player.
Winston for sure yo 100% legit
In a coordinated 6-stack, which OP mentions, the problem would be the counter-action of the enemy Widow’s team. If anything, this is where I think a proper dive comp would demolish Widow and force her to switch off.
First of all decent widows usually play somewhere you can’t jump to with a single use of your jump pack and headshot you as you jump then grapple away and then you are an easy kill,not to mention they are usually pocketed by mercy and are playing in at least a semi organised team environment as it is a game against another six stack where they will be damaging your team or helping widow focus down you at the same time.
Genji is the only character who can take and hold a high ground position from a Widowmaker, otherwise if you’re on defense then using a Reinhardt and Orisa composition with either a hitscan or a Zenyata behind the Orisa can just nullify her sight lines with shields and spam her down. If you’re on offense, then tripple or quad tank compositions can ignore her as they steam roll to point or if you have a pro Lucio you can send him off to chase her down.
Again proper dive only really works against another coordinated six stack if you have players who are comfortable on the heroes necessary for an effective dive comp, eg. if you have a winston who has barely played him for the past few seasons and mainly been playing rein and orisa it is unlikely to work.