How I'd Balance Every Hero 💕

[SteveyHooves-1572]

i still disagree. I’m sure More of the other Reins Main i talk to would to. though who know.

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@Defenestrate-11391

This is an off topic question, but dude how did you make the info to hide in and out like that? It’s look cool as hell.

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1. Click the Cog
2. Click the “hide details” option
3. Format it however you like

[PharHǝntoi-1208]

@Solastraea-1148

Pharah

None.

Das what I like to hear. However I would be willing to trade off healing reduction while flying, for a self-heal ability (shields) and for her crouch button to cause her to fall, like a superhero landing.

@Solastraea-1148

Bastion

Ironclad

Increased by 5% damage reduction (up from 20%).

Configuration: Sentry

Can now headshot enemies.
Spreas increased by 10%.

Configuration: Tank

Now gives 200 armor once cast.
Can now be cancelled if Bastion is stunned during his transformation phase.

I think his current 20% IC is fine, and that he just needs less spread and HS added again, then 35% IC on tank rather than the 200 armor (he used to only get 150, and the 35% IC equates to the 150 armor).

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I won’t dive into all the heros, but I’ll give a TL;DR: Dva, I like. Ana I like. The rest I’m indifferent on, but simply because theres nothing major that I’ve seen.

[The18thFret-1386]

I don’t think most would. Breaking down a 2000hp shield takes a LOT of damage output from the team, and to give players only a one second window to actually hurt the enemy team before another shield is back up is too much. If the shield goes down, they can back up or re-position. POV from a Zarya main that invests a lot of dmg in to enemy reins and their shields, waiting for those 3 seconds to right click in and make them back up.

[Skald-1493]

That’s insane. You’re telling me that Ana’s disposition of being easily countered and killed is how it should be, that any player who picks her should expect to be quickly and often dispatched without much say so about it as part of her regular and normal play.

I’m sorry if that’s your expected norm then it’s horrible design. No hero deserves that. Every hero should have the capacity when played ideally to play perpetually.

Add just two dive heroes into your team (don’t care who) and you’ve effectively countered Ana. If she lucks to sleep one she’s still easy prey to the other. Add one Winston (that’s all) and she’s hard countered. If he wants her gone she’s gone there is no counter play for her here. He has mobility, shields, hit points and no requirements for aim to dispatch her at leisure.

To pick Ana over any existing support IS to nerf your own team. Go to the Omnicmeta website and look at the numbers yourself. She’s worse than having a Hanzo on your team. It’s only because she supposedly heals that she’s tolerated.

“Victim of the dive meta” that’s just parroting Jeff without offering up anything to do about it — and that in turn is a passive conceed that she’s supposed to be a victim and remain as such as part of the game’s purposeful design.

I’m sorry no hero should play like that. Yes they should have counters; but NO they shouldn’t be countered even before the opposing team picks as part of their “design”.

The Ana you think that is isn’t. She died the day prior to dive coming online — by nerfs to herself, nerfs to the Tanks that would supposedly protect her, buffs to dive movements, increases to DPS lethality, the addition of more and stronger shields to block her, the addition of more heroes to directly counter her and the addition of better supports that can do everything she can do with more efficacy. She’s become a model-T with a front loaded crank shaft in an age of solid state vehicles and you propose to only adjust her mirrors and change out her tires as a means to fix her.

[Ranter-21688]

@Solastraea-1148

Swift Strike

Hitbox size reduced by 25% to match the animation shown.

Dragon Blade

Can now be cancelled if stunned/killed during the cast animation.

@Solastraea-1148

Rocket Punch
Hitbox size increased by 10%.

no need for that

@Solastraea-1148

Deflect

Hitbox size reduced by 25% to match the animation shown.

it will be 3 squared meters then, that means the hitbox will be 1.73 meters by 1.73 meters.
Make it 1.5 meters by 1.5, so it will be close to 50% in reduction (43.75%)

@Solastraea-1148

The Reaping

Self healing increased to 30% of damage dealt.

Hellfire Shotguns

Now ignore armor mechanics and treat armor as normal health.
Spread reduced by 10%.

Wraith Form

Now able to be cancelled.
Sound reduced by 25%.

Shadow Step

Cast time decreased to 1.5s (down from 2.5s).
Sound reduced by 5m.

7 buffs? He is not too far off the other balanced heroes in the game

@Solastraea-1148

Tactical Visor

Can now be cancelled if stunned/killed during the cast animation.

lets nerf a balanced hero, why not, and give CC more power

@Solastraea-1148

Cooldown from failed attempt reduced by 1s (down from 2s).
Cooldown from successful attempt reduced by 2s (down from 8s).

luck is involved with that, remove it

@Solastraea-1148

Can now be cancelled if Bastion is stunned during his transformation phase.

don’t give CC more power

@Solastraea-1148

Cooldown reduced by 2s (down from 8s).

I would not like more mines to deal with. Make it a flat 80 with normal cooldown

@Solastraea-1148

RIP-Tire

Charge required increased by 20%.

needs much better increase then just 20%

@Solastraea-1148

Now disables all enemy movement abilities and passives after 10 ticks (takes 30 ticks to freeze someone), and is removed after 1s passes from the last tick of damage.

@Solastraea-1148

Now disables all enemy movement abilities and passives after 10 ticks (takes 30 ticks to freeze someone), and is removed after 1s passes from the last tick of damage.

@Solastraea-1148

Area of effect reduced by 2m (down from 10m).

she doesn’t need it

@Solastraea-1148

Forge Hammer

Now heals the turret for 100 HP per hit (up from 50 HP).
Takes 1 less swing to upgrade the turret to tier 2.

Turret

Turret HP is now entirely armor, excluding 50 base HP.

Molten Core

Now deals 20 damage per second to enemies within 5m.

major buffs to a hero that is not too far off?

@Solastraea-1148

Duration increased by 1s (up from 2s).
Maximum recharge time increased by 2s (up from 8s).

DM is fine right now…

@Solastraea-1148

Cooldown increased by 2s (up from 5s).

1 sec is cool too

@Solastraea-1148

Barrier Field

Now recharges at 250 HP/s (up from 195 HP/s).

he doesn’t need it. He has the most balanced shield

@Solastraea-1148

Cast time increased to 2s (up from 1.75s), but only affects Mercy for 1s (cast animation). Takes 1s extra for the target to be revived. No longer slows Mercy. Can be cancelled by killing or stunning Mercy during the 1s cast time.
Range increased by 10m (up from 5m).

*LOS check added

@Solastraea-1148

Sentry Turret

Health increased to 20 HP (19 shields, 1 HP).
Cast time reduced by .7s (down from 1.4s).
Cooldown decreased by 2s (down from 10s)

Teleporter

Now has 12 charges (up from 6).
Allies can now see the location of the teleporter through the wall.

Shield Generator.

Now grants +25 shields (up from 75).
Area of effect increased by 25m (up from 50m).

she is getting something else

[Tom1315-2706]

lol. Don’t you love how one person has put more effort effort balancing heroes than the devs will ever do…

Also I like your mercy changes.

[quiznos-11361]

First off.
That’s wonderful formatting.
Second, I only read torb (so far), and honestly don’t think he needs that much.

I would just make it so:
Lvl 1 turret has 300hp
Turret drops at only 100 hp, fully completed, no activation time.
Once turret reaches 300hp it becomes a lvl 2.

This will speed up general build time, and reduce the “can’t upgrade due to chip dmg” nonsense.

[Antix-11479]

There’s a lot of good stuff here. I think some characters are getting a little too much though.

I think you may have given Reaper too many buffs for example but I could see any one or two of those changes being made.

I think allowing Mei to disable movement abilities is interesting. So is the piercing enemies thing but together that would be really harsh. If she does get both of those buffs, in addition to the blizzard change she would also newd louder footsteps so you could at least hear her coming when in the middle of a battle.

Also Torb being able to repair 100 per swing would make it extremely difficult to bust his turrets. How about 75 instead. No objection to the fewer swings to get a level 2 though. He needs that.

[Aven-21626]

<----- 4.1k Mei main

I’m all for giving Mei a little bit of help; being able to freeze multiple targets is something that I’ve wanted for a long time.

However Mei is very balanced, she’s just woefully underrated because many people do not know how to play her, and thus she is very ineffective most of the time. Her apparent inability to freeze mobile targets mostly comes people’s lack of game-sense and inability to keep track of enemy cooldowns and ultimates.

Your suggested changes for denying movement abilities would make her in Jeff Kaplan’s words “OPAF”.

[Defenestrate-11391]

Thank you my dude, I fully appreciate it.

[Abraxxas-11432]

• Genji

Swiftstrike only resets cooldown if the final hit was the swiftstrike itself.

Reflect doesnt work on anything that a barrier wouldn’t work.

• Hanzo

Scatter now have a fixed damage value and an enemy only takes this damage once, no matter how many instances of the attack hit them.

[GenericToast-21468]

These seem fair in all respects
Nice job
Stay positive
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Thought you could escape me Mr Pro Sleep Dart- THINK AGAIN MWAHAHAHAH

[Speedwagon-11177]

Is it okay if I use your formatting in my own post and credit you?

[idc-11342]

@Solastraea-1148

Genji

• Deflect
  • Hitbox size reduced by 25% to match the animation shown.
• Swift Strike
  • Hitbox size reduced by 25% to match the animation shown.
• Dragon Blade
  • Can now be cancelled if stunned/killed during the cast animation.The goal is to make Genji’s hitboxes actually match their animation. As of now, both hitboxes are extremely forgiving in nature, and adjusting their size would make him more predictable and consistent to play against. Additionally, the change to his ultimate is to incentive more unforgiving gameplay on a very forgiving ultimate ability.

congrats, u have found a tier below F

[DarthRevill-2509]

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