How does one get to Platinum or Diamond Support?

my good friend, what you need is to GIT GUD

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Except when you’re support and you have garbage tier teammates, they can affect you exponentially more than they can a dps or tank. You can be the best healer ever but if you have idiots as teammates that don’t listen you will never rank up as Supports are hit so much harder. That’s why people who say “git gud” like clown above me or “you’re a the rank you belong” are complete imbeciles.

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Well ironically, the last thing you need is some numbers for heal. You heal your team is already a given but you gotta use your utilities to support your team whether it be securing kills or sleeping that nano Rein.

It’s hard to give advice without knowing more, like your strengths as a player. Are you good mechanically? Like movement or aim? If so then you’ll get far with Ana, Zen, Lucio and Bap. If not you need to play a support that allows you to impact the team fights as much as possible. I don’t think you’ll be able to do it as Moira, because she’s essentially a healbot. Try something like Ana or Baptiste maybe. They have decent healing output, damage and incredibly strong cooldowns that can directly impact team fights.

I don’t get what’s so hard to get about the competitive ladder. It’s a point scoring game - first and foremost. You win by getting the most points. So on an average - you should win more than you lose - duh - but you need to be more methodical in how you play than the average player. Don’t just go for objective times or flat out k/d ratio or damage numbers - though both of those may help you win the current match - they wont necessarily help you rank up in the matchmaking system.

Most people go in - get somewhere between 1 and 4 kills per life and don’t put much strategy rather than “get angle - take picks” or “position good - don’t die.” - but the real value comes from Ults and multi-kills. How many 3 k’s or more do you average? Do you get one every match? Does your team usually just win the game by getting more objective time? Or do you stomp out team fights with Team Kills EVERY FIGHT like how the SF Shock did during most games this last season?

Hope for the best. That’s all there is to it.

The problem with Support comp is that, generally, all you’re doing is healing the team. You can heal all you want; doesn’t make the team any better if they suck. Your competence has less effect on the game overall than any of theirs. That may sound controversial, but it’s simply true.

I started queuing religiously with a DPS main while I was in Diamond because that way you know at least one person is competent.

Then he started using comp games as a “chill practice sesh” after he couldn’t get past the 3400 mark for about two weeks, and thanks to his fine choices I’ve lost all my placements and am back in Plat (2900 thank God, could have been far worse…Just give me a win streak please and we’re good…), so it’s safe to say I will not be queuing with that one ever again…I will find one of my old buddies. Even with that bad experience now behind me, I still do believe the best way to have some decent games and climb as a Support - whether it’s Mercy or Zenyatta - is to find a reliable Tank or DPS main to queue with. In fact, I’d recommend that for all roles. DPS? Get a healer. Tank? Get a DPS or another Tank. Healer? Get one or the other, doesn’t really matter.

Excuse the little rant, but I’ve only just been placed and that last game ended too painfully for words, so I’m not in the mood to be particularly eloquent.

I’m in such an awful mood right now that reading this satisfied me beyond words. I’ve been trying to say this (only far less eloquently) for ages now and somehow so many people try to tell me how I’m wrong - usually other Support mains who are insecure about the role they choose to play. But let me put it this way:

  • As a Support, I am not the one making the kills unless I’m playing Moira, and frankly I focus far more on healing than DPS anyway. I’m a healer, that is my job first and foremost.
  • As a Support, I am not the one who decides when we push. I can never make the first move or I will die

Those two factors are so important for winning games - they are what wins games at the end of the day, so Support players are at the mercy of their team’s competence most of the time. You need to be good yourself to help them, yes, but ultimately your healing competency is nothing on Hanzo’s competency to hit consistent headshots. Only one of those things pushes the payload faster, so to speak.

I genuinely despise those people. They’re in the same ilk as those “if you can’t solo-carry a game then you shouldn’t be climbing” mouthbreathers who presume playing Mercy is just like playing Widowmaker. Overwatch is a team game and it takes an entire team to win it.

Play Moira and kill everything. That’s what I do. Albeit Moira was my favorite hero even before the current meta. She pumps out easily 15kheals/10min and can wreck most heroes. I thought it’d be less effective in Diamond but it’s not.

Well a 3200 told me…track enemy ults and communicate

If you’re tanking. Lead your team with words and actions…where you’re going what you’re doing…you are the captain and your team are the shipmates…Avast me Maties and hoist the sails.

Basically, you climb if you communicate, you play with " I need to pee!" Urgency!!!. And actions per minute. Find something helpful to do…every second…if you’re doing nothing…you fail.

None of these. You have to win games.

…which is harder to do as Support, which is the point of the topic. It’s not that simple as stated. How is this so hard for people to understand, are some of yall really that dumb?

When Role Queue launched, I first placed as support in Gold. After a few weeks, I managed to get to Plat. I achieved this primarily by winning more games than I lost.

I mean, it kinda is that simple. It doesn’t actually matter if you have a reduced ability to influence games as healer, you still have an ~50% chance of winning every game. If you’re an above average support for your rank, your win ratio should tilt to your favour. Because for every garbage team you get, you should also get a garbage opposition.

Im sorry how were there support players in top500 prior to 222 if they have so little opportunity to sway the outcome of a match?

My problem is tanks that just dive in alone over and over, feeding ult. I crie evry tiem.

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If you’re asking me that question, then you didn’t read my post or Spoon’s for that matter. I’m not about to have an argument over this, so just re-read them both. Supports aren’t generally the ones initiating pushes or making the kills. That’s it. Not that deep.

Dude i’m in diamond on support too, and as much trash as we like to talk about our teammates, if i say we’re going to initiate on x ult, and start saying “go go go focus x” my team will atleast try 90% of the time.

Most supports have plenty of opportunities through a match to get kills while still providing your team utility that your dps just can’t.

When you lose two games in a row stop playing. The match maker is broken and puts you with the worst players available after you go on a win streak.

Work on positioning, don’t heal teammates who are out of position.

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Yeah, I mean physically though. As in, they aren’t Tanking. A Mercy can’t lead her team into battle, basically XD That’s all I’m saying. Supports really need the team to be doing their jobs properly. I mean, every role does but Supports need it a little more because there’s only so much they can do. I’m not saying the role is bad or boosted in any way - I’m a Support main, I would never say or think that, but it’s just different to Tank and DPS.

While they do, that isn’t their primary role. A Support can’t substitute for one DPS who isn’t pulling their weight, essentially. A Support’s primary role is to heal, that’s all. You’re making it seem like I’ve trashed every single Support player ever when I’m simply outlining their differences to the other two roles…That doesn’t mean it’s bad. It’s just different.

you dont, ive been diamond since diamond was a thing and with 2 2 2 ive been in mid plat because either the dps or the tanks arent doing anything to help your team and you also have a mercy or zen main as your secondary healer and then the whole game falls apart because everyone blames eachother. It makes this game awful to play, you feel like you cant move anywhere bc of the retards playing with you not even trying to conform to a strat and playing F*****G genji into sigma orisa.

Thats not true, ive been diamond since diamond was a thing and now im plat because people dont play on meta against meta. Whenever I suggest a swap I get the “wow a silver border plat player what a loser” even though ive been diamond since this 2 2 2 retardation started