I do find it a bit ironic that MORE time was spent during Torbs rework and MORE effort was placed into it, Torbs rework came out amazingly and has had so much time dedicated towards it. They actually listened to the community on inputs for Torb unlike Symm they just went away and did their own thing. Symm is terrible in her current state, people say change her orbs as her primary but thats not the point her beam was and should be her primary but the fact it takes 6 seconds to get it at max is ridiculous. Honestly the lock-on was her thing the problem with Overwatch is they’re trying to make every character hard to play without taking into consideration people that have disabilities and or struggle in other ways. Slowly but surely they’re cutting down who they can play, she honestly is so reliant on environment and her turrets and it’s wrong, Torb is now able to fight without his turrent why can’t they do the same with Symm?
Symmetra didn’t even need a rework which is the funny thing. However, they took away unique things about them. (Torb giving armor and Symmetra’s shield gen/ photon barrier)
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She’s not that bad in he current state. She needs buffs sure, but definitely not terrible
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I was there for the megathread. through all 9,000 replies. Throw-stick turrets, explosive orbs, ability teleporter, these were all suggested numerous times. The ult was a bit of a surprise, but it’s a very good ult
She is pretty trash lol, she really doesn’t have any survivability and can’t do what 2.0 could. 2.0 could actually counter a lot of heroes and 3.0 really doesn’t counter anyone.
The ult doesn’t even last as long as a regular statue shield like Orisas
tired of putting up all my suggestions but I won’t stop posting about Symmetra until she’s in a viable state.
Synn still needs buffs, but I think she has potential to be a very cool and very versatile hero now instead of just being a pubstomper.
3.0 is more generalist, as was intended by the rework. and 3.0 does not counter strongly, but synergizes strongly with a lot of heroes through TP. Symmetra is a teamwork hero. Teamwork heroes ALWAYS appear trash on ladder even when they aren’t. Again, she definitely needs buffs but heck no she’s not trash
Supercharger isn’t even infinite like damage boost maaan, it’s useless maaan.
They aren’t comparable. The application of Photon Barrier is much different than Orisa’s barrier, and Orisa’s Barrier is (obviously) not ENORMOUS and 5,000hp. Photon Barrier is an ultimate, it divides the entire map in your team’s favor. It’s a good ult, I would know, since I’ve used it a lot
Photon barrier is easily counterable and its pretty situational. Sombra’s EMP destroys it and heroes that can attack through shields have no problem with it.
It’s a bad ult, i think a pyramid shaped one like you see her hold in the hero selection would of been 10x better since they can’t just stand on the edge of the map and shred through the shield with a Bastion. And it would of given coverage all around not just in front of you
All Symmetra needs is 250hp and major improvements to her primary, which is borderline unusable right now and 90% of the reason why she’s still bad. Her secondary, turrets, teleporter, and ult are all good
That i can live with, tbh the main issue i do have with her is that she is squishy and her primary.
First charge is garbage
There are so many threads now, seems like maybe a new megathread is in order…
I have no idea how to do that
Haha i’d debate all day and night on it.
- a lot of players wanted more versatile sentries
- a lot of people suggested a light-bridge or ramp, the teleporter is basically that (although it has its strengths and weaknesses compared to a hardlight ramp)
- A lot of players wanted faster orbs (although nobody wanted to lose the barrier piercing)
I feel like the Symm rework gets a bad rap for emotional reasons. She really did become an almost fully different character, and the lock-on hose + barrier-piercing were distinct and unique effects, which I myself was attached to…but I leanred to let go. They were replaced with other cool stuff.
I really don’t think Sym is too far off the mark. I think some minor buffs would go a long way towards making her viable, honestly.
Her newer stuff is a ripoff of other heros, her beam is a worse version of Zar and her Orbs are just slower Phara rockets. Her tp takes so long to put up i can’t even stress how many times it’s killed me. Doom ult Placed down tp and spams f Doom slams down just as tp comes up and her turrets I can live with but she is too reliant on them and her environment.
I consider Sym’s rework successful, but that’s the thing-- what is “good” and what isn’t “good” is subjective. I get better results with new Sym, find her more viable than before, and have more fun with her than before. Regardless of what people might say, she did need a rework. A lot of people still can’t seem to handle having to track or aim with her now. There are things I miss about her old kit (shield gen in particular) but I like the new Sym.