“Hot take” used to be used on opinions that had merit but were controversial.
Now it’s just used to describe stupid opinions.
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Partially true; she was brought in with her power with the fact that dive made her useless and so she was technically balanced.
So realistically, it was Ana + Dive that started it all. And dive wasn’t just one hero; it was mostly around 2 DPS having at least one dive tank engage on a support with them so that they disappeared.
I definitely agree they’re not op. Definitely strong but not busted op. Kinda annoying how most of the community just sheepishly follow what some top 500 streamer says, but forget there are only 500 of these players compared to the thousands of evidently inconsistent players.
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you can miss all your shots on ana and nade the tank and win the game. I showed this to my friends when I was dps only ana, and I was winning ranked games with 1000 healing and 3000 damage and by nading the tank only. Literally, my friends were at my house, and my wife, and I won 5 out of 5 games just in front of them.
Ana’s effective range is the entire map, the best solo-target healing hps, 70 guaranteed damage per shot, no need to spread control, sleep dart, game winning ultimate.
Kiriko’s effective range is the entire map, insane headshots, solo target heal with approximate aiming, two death escapes, wall climb.
Her kunai is insanely good.
Number 1 hps in the entire game, btw.
Metro is a meme anyways. And it’s just one guy, his experience means nothing.
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disagree, its very easy. Her kunai are huge, and she has loads of tools to close distance, force duels and blow up squishies, and then tp out. She can suzu selfishly to win 1v1s because its actually very consistent if you have good movement and aim. This is one of the best ways to play her in high elo. I don’t have a problem with her being able to do this specifically, but she’s definitely not hard to aim with. Maybe that’s just because I main zen tho, idk
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kiri is broken. end of discussion.
ana ive been a defender for a long time- but the supp passive pushed her over.
There is a person on this forums, who defends ana all the time. It doesn’t matter who they are. But what matters is that their profile is public. They play ana, bap and kiri. Their win rate on bap and kiri is slightly above 50%. Their win rate on ana is about 30% (multiple seasons in a row, 20-30 matches per season). They don’t do damage on any of this heroes, they just heal. Their accuracy is terrible. Their deaths-per-10 is twice as big on ana, probably because they have terrible positioning, their sleep dart accuracy is very low, and ana doesn’t have easy life saving abilities like tp or immo field.
So, this person doesn’t understand the character, or they lack mechanical skill to play the hero properly. But this person definitely loves to play ana, even in competitive. Can’t blame them, she is a ton of fun. And they think, that anyone who complains about nade or sleep is just crazy. They think that this abilities must be buffed.
Not nerfing sleep and nade will make one group of players mad.
Not buffing ana will make another group of players mad.
Rework? Not any time soon.
For me, ana is one of many reasons why I don’t play tank anymore.
Interesting situation.
People complaining about nade, complaining about sleep dart. Ana has 0 mobility so find something that ‘nerf’ her ‘op’ kit without just destroying any value the character has. Because she has no escape ability at all.
didn’t he purposely do that to troll others?
https://x.com/metro_ow/status/1741574436690497593?s=46
And woke used to mean you know the unfortunate truth that most people are blind to. So basically the opposite of what it means now.
Suzu, Lamp and Nade are ultimate level abilities on 10-15 second cooldowns.
They are problematic to say the least.
i still think moira takes that slot. you get high value from ana only if you have really good aim, and knowledge of when to use your abilities…moira is a pretty simple character…not much aim required and doesnt have any abilities that require strategy…
True. Earlier, I missed my sleep dart on ulting Moira, but I hit an ulting Illari in the air somehow.
I’m kind of halfway on it.
Moira is the easiest support overall.
But in terms of putting in effort for the impact you can have in a game, I’d give that to Ana. Moira’s abilities don’t sway the fights that often. Ana’s do.
yeah…i see that. i was mainly talking about impact vs effort. yes, ana, with enough effort can have a great impact, but moira can have a major impact with little effort. id say she can and does often sway fights, because of her ability to, without much effort, get high healing and high damage numbers. the fact that she can basically act as a dive dps to kill supports gives her pretty good value.
The only tanks that have no way to deal with made are Mauga, hog and junker queen
All the rest have a way to avoid / mitigate the effect
Rein shield, sigma shield and grasp, dva matrix, zarya bubbles, ram shield, orisa spin, ball and doom can just get away
So many times tank players don’t even mind their own positioning and where the enemy Ana team is, but it’s all supports’ fault, either your own for no healing / cleansing or the enemy being op
You’re right OP. Everyone else is just way UP and are in SERIOUS need of BUFFS to match!
Hopefully 2024 will be the year all the heroes get some serious TLC in the form of buffs to their kits that make them fun and enjoyable again.
ur just wrong and stupid and you should feel bad they r literally the pinnacle of how not to design a character sorry buddy
Ana has an objectively broken kit that causes tank balance issues (example: hog being extremely survivalistic right now unless there’s Ana, and completely dead pre-rework).
Kiriko is an annoyance whose kit revolves around … guess what? Countering Ana. She was the first support to include a cleanse for things like anti. The fact it’s not single target shows it was meant to deal with AoE abilities.
Don’t get me wrong, I love Ana but she’s permanently in the spotlight.
None of those things are difficult to do.
it’s also very hard to misuse their abilities.
Kiriko has an essentially auto tracking healing papers that can only be stopped by literal walls, and the ability to 2 tap people.
All this while being virtually undivable / unkillable because she has a 35 meter teleportation ability that cannot PHYSICALLY be stopped, and an immortality + intangibility + burst healing + cleanse ability. AND one of the best ults in the game.
Ana has infinite range, burst healing, and 2 of those strongest cooldowns in the game. Oh, and just like kiriko. One of the best ults in the game.
There is no planet where neither ana or kiriko are broken, when ana is so busted that they are having to literally and giga buff tanks AROUND her anti. (instead of just nerfing the hero causing it!!!)
You can keep saying that these heroes require no misuse of their abilities, but the fact of the matter is, is that it’s genuinely harder to misuse these abilities than it is to get free value out of them.