High noon should target immortality field

General Discussion
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But why not?
Baiting it out aside, why not?

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This post reminds me of another I saw asking to just completely remove all heros that are like moira. If it can’t target other deploy able again why should it target IF

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This comment reminds me of a video of a seal walking on a beach… cos it has nothing to do with the post

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except bud you know zen ult is counterable right? ana nade. IF is counterable too, just shoot it 4Head

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But it’s so different than Zen’s ult - Zen’s ult keeps you at 100% health and enables tank aggression and movement. You can Boop Zen out with anything also away from teammates.

IF is the opposite - you gotta boop the players outside the filed instead the field, + it can’t be countered by a nade + you do not enable any kind of aggression for your dps/tanks but instead you force them to protect the IF until the supports manage to heal you up from 10% to whatever %

It’s just different

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Does high noon target deployables? I honestly can’t remember lmao

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No it does not, it targets only playable characters

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Well, most of the time it’s press Q to die. Balance.

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I’m not saying the ult isn’t under powered as a basis, but it should not target deployables. In fact if it did that it would hurt him because it would take longer for him to shoot everyone even if he locked onto everyone

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Yes if timed well and used right.

Deflect exists,
Wraith Form exists,
Barrier exists,
Ice Wall exists,
Sleep Dart exists,
Hack exists,
Chain Hook exists,
And all of them have lower cooldown than Immortality Field.

I see no problem for Immortality Field to counter Deadeye.

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Ah right, then it doesn’t make sense to target immofield.

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This is my alt
My main is high diamond(Usually masters)

And no, it isn’t a problem because unlike you(Who definitely isn’t masters like you seem to claim) I have the intelligence to kill IF before using my ult

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wow now I am lying? dude just back off lol. And you have the intelligence to outplay IF but don’t have the intelligence to get out of diamond?

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Came here to say this. His idea that abilities shouldnt counter ults is silly.

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If you’re consistently losing deadeye to immortality, you need to pick your moments better. Or just try to take out Baps first. If you’re ulting with McCree at all, I have to assume you don’t have a barrier in your way to worry about, so picking him off or at least baiting out the field shouldn’t be too hard.

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Rofl… Reading this thread made me realize why people think Baptiste is gutted on the ptr.

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Unless you haven’t noticed, there is a lot of normal abilities countering ultimates, Mei wall and dva bomb for just an example.

So I agree, get good and bait IF first, it has a 20 sec minimum CD.

Maybe get out of bronze before talking.

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I think the issue that most rational people have with Baptiste is that it covers the whole team with no real skill output from Baptiste. A Mei wall? At least she timed and aimed it. Same with most of the counterplay, actually.

Baptiste just throws it at his feet when he hears you scream the time.

I can tell nobody here actually plays McCree because I will tell you exactly what happens when you go on a flank to bait out immortality. You hit him twice, he tosses immortality. What now? You have two options. Shoot at the field while he shoots at you, you will likely die unless positioned well… On a flank. Or 2, you ultimate and hope your team shoots immortality. High risk, high reward. Or 3, you back off and cannot ultimate anyways because you have been scouted.

None of those are decent options. And that is just assuming they do not have a shield for whatever reason. It happens, I guess.

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I remember almost a year ago there was this huge debate because seagull released a video about the state of overwatch or whatever and a big point there was that he thought that ultimates in overwatch were too strong, basically “I win” buttons and had too little non-ultimate counterplay.
It became the big new talking point everywhere overwatch related. So then we got baptiste with a cooldown ability that can counter a lot of ultimates by reaction. But now people are complaining again that a cooldown can counter ults.
Obviously this community isn’t a big hivemind where everyone thinks the same but it’s just something I noticed and thought was funny

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A lot of regular abilities can counter ULTs.
DM. Sleep. Shield bash.