I agree, I personally don’t find competitive that fun unless I am playing my favourite heroes, I only switch if it’s actually needed.
I agree at the issue will have negative effects on the accuracy of SR. Like my example the person can play 3 heroes in support 1 is banned, 1 is taken and the 3rd one isn’t working with their team comp, therefore they have to change to a different healer they have not practised yet, if you’re in a high rank, this situation is very bad because you probably cannot go from being a Mercy 1 trick to suddenly becoming a god Lucio in 5 mins if you never played him before lol.
And you don’t feel this is incentive to learn more heroes?
I think you’re dismissing Mozts a little too easily here.
He’s saying that overall your SR should reflect your ability to play the role and the game, not the character. If you cannot play at Masters level with 1 or 2 characters unavailable to you, maybe you’re not Masters level Support.
I have no idea what your profile is and I’m not actually talking about YOU… just your hypothetical up in your post that you replied to him with. I have no idea what your rank/hours are and have long since abandoned using them to gauge people since everyone always talks about alts.
edit: I AM NOT ATTACKING you, I’m trying to provide objective perspective on the argument.
This is true I agree with that. But there’s another take on that one, there’s main and off-roles inside tanks and supports. Some people only play these respectively or flex between both and are in the higher tiers of the game. If 1 hero is locked and you are let’s say a off support main, you’re left out with like what 2 heroes in that category left really. That’s not a lot of choice compared to DPS for example where, if your 2 snipers are locked, you can still pick a hitscan that does long-range fair damage (e.g. Hanzo/Widow locked → Ashe/Cree can be good replacements).
But yes, higher tiers of the game are most likely expected to know more of their roles really.
Yes this is the scariest problem about hero pools, it bothers me a lot.
If all tanks and supports worked the same, fine. But nobody looks at the bigger picture, everyone forgets that there are so few main healers and shield tanks.
In a week Reinhardt is banned, you’re going to have a lot more double off-tanks because a lot of people dislike playing Orisa, and Sigma is really bad now.
But not this, Sigma is still a good alternative tank frankly, he’s just not full-meta. I feel like he,s in somewhat the same spot as hog atm, he’s good with certain tanks, in certain maps and it’s really fine. Tho they should reconsider some stuff and revert mb the clunkyness they gave to the kit tbh.
His ultimate can be stopped during nearly the whole of it’s duration now which I highly disagree with, they should have just reduced the damage, he is a tank not a DPS.
I just think that you’re looking at how this affects things you care about and not what this means for high level players who care about being effective and don’t self impose rules on themselves. Lots of them absolutely hate people who don’t swap because like it or not, and the developers have stated this often, the game was designed around swapping.
Totally there is an impact that’s heavier on the supports/tanks with a more limited pool to choose from, but I’m thinking the overall idea is to have top players who can deal with everything the game can throw at them, not just “how to deal with everything as torb at GM level”. The skillsets needed will be broader and someone being able to maintain top 500 through several restrictions will be far more impressive if you know they didn’t just ride on one characters potential.
Sure, and those people will fall in ranks because other people will be willing to play stronger comps rather than restricting themselves.
Also my first post talks about low ranks specifically, which is why Moira and Mercy were used as the main example, as they are the ones most affected by this change imo.
Never been taken out of my ult since its launch tbh. I still don,t think Sigma is a MT specifically, he fits in the grey area between both imo. Sometimes he’s good at main tanking, sometimes he fits best as the fake “off-tank”, also is really map-dependant imo.
False. The restriction may cause SR inflation upon missleading data and may have a huge impact synergy-wise as solo queuers, Hero pools patch might be best played in duo with the other person of your role for better outcomes regarding that. A person who doesn,t play during that lock week, ay be able to remain at his “normal” ranking, whereas the other may not simply put, they suck at some heroes (and it’s normal).
To me I can play really anything but anything that dives frankly. I really just suck at anything-dive. I’m currenlty high gold tank (was about to hit plat, but didnt have time). Does it mean I’ll fall in ranks because I suck at Dive, not really unless it’s the meta and the rest is inneffective. If there is more than 1 choice, I can certainly find an outcome with my current skills.
I think you care about being able to use your favorite characters all the time. Which shouldn’t really be a consideration for top level competition in a game designed like this. There’s nothing WRONG with wanting to play who you like, it’s just not something that someone who is truly competitive is going to gimp their chances with.
I may have missed it but see no reference to that.
Wouldn’t decay come into play if you simply didn’t login for a week? (I don’t know anything about decay currently) Couldn’t they adjust it so that would be the case if not? That way you couldn’t cruise on the success of your better characters. My assumption is that anything below decay thresholds isn’t really playing metas anyway and wouldn’t particularly be the players concerned with optimal strategies.
