Hero difficulty tierlist

I’m offended.

I know the tier list is wrong when McCree and Soldier is higher than Ashe along with Hog being higher.

And how is Bastion higher than Mercy and Brig

a list like this needs to be 2 dimensional to encopace the skill floor and skill sealing of any given hero to make sense you cant just plot them one dimensionally like this…

Also even then it does not fully nocompase the full range… some heros may require low effort get some value… but then you have a whole other tier for gearter effectivness and true mastery yet another level… really one shou ld plot general skill curves for each… and plot that on a chart…

if you can do that with anought people and avrage out the cuves then maybe you can get some good data at least about player perception…

Also i would put doomfist as hardest probably hmm D.va depending on what level of proficency could range from hardest to no brain lol i play her best when i drunk drive her :stuck_out_tongue: (i made a cocktail specifically for her d.va bomb 1oz dark rum 1oz Cointreu 1oz Apple jack possibly one can substitute with a calvados one large ice cracked up ice cube and top it in a tall glass with mountain dew… i really need to figure out a drink for torbörjn i am thinking i base it on swedish julmust (seasonal softdrink that outcompete coca cola for x-mas in sweden lol))

Anyway there is way to much personal bias in this tier list also a tier list is not even applicable…

The hardest tank to use in my experience is Ball. Sigma has much more sustainability than Winston, and has a bit more freedom in how he can be played due to his kit. I’d argue that Winston is at least harder to use than Sigma.

Sombra, if used effectively, is pretty difficult, especially is the enemies already have your number. I think she should be placed higher.

Zen, kit wise, is probably the most difficult. I don’t see why Ana is that high other than the fact she’s a sniper.

Brig is easy to use, hard to master. They aren’t effective in multiple comps imo, but when it clicks, ohhhh it clicks lol.

Bastion’s not brain dead? That’s a surprise to me. I always see them used in the same fashion (though I see how they can be used in more versatile ways)

I understand this is an opinionated list and appreciate your choices, however.

Are you suggesting point and click is easy?

Do you know the game: Osu!

If not, watch any 7* map.
Its simply point and click and maybe drag or spin.

I bet you anything i will ever earn that you will do misses on any 7* rated map. :sweat_smile:

True there are naturally gifted players and they will easily pull out more than enough value of heroes like widow / cree or dedicated players improving.

Similar to how all heroes have a baseline and a cap, in mercys case the baseline is reached by everyone, but the max cap, very few will ever reach.

As someone who believes his aim is better than his ego/positioning, i agree hitscan is the easiest.

As someone who only plays mercy, coordinates his team and makes tactical choices, he might never get value from widow.
But probably eats 10x more ults on d.va than i would in my entire life.

(no personal offense towards you, i just think it always depends on the player and if you are very good at point and click, hitscan will clearly feel super easy. But thats ones perception.

dawg they are literally in the same categories what are you smoking

not even looking at it and I know cree is too high. the easiest hero in the game, 0 risk high reward, 300 damage ability on a less than 1 second cooldown, hard cc, point and click just hit bodyshots and you are a masters cree

Oh no doubt. I personally despise storm arrow, but I agree it make him easier than widow. Without it maybe they would be closer to equal, but Hanzo has as better panic attacks that can save him that widow does not.

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Well you surely still have an interest in replying to me :slight_smile:

stop crying dawg right click is the only thing broken abt him

bro there is no way you’re comparing playing widowmaker to a 7* on OSU LMAOOOOO I AM ACTUALLY LAUGHING

Change Mercy and Moira and I’d be chill with it

I’m pretty happy with where you put my mains. In general, I find these lists to be very subjective but it appears we agree on a lot of heroes (not all but a lot).

No i’m just comparing 2 “point and click” gameplays :grin:

Saying point and click is easy but it always depends how much time you are given to point

The whole topic can never be agreed on by everyone so…

They have them at the same tier… I would move Echo up higher, though. She is fun to play, but decently hard to play.

If you don’t quantify your teir list and just they are all ez and not difficult, what makes them have there difficulty is the consistancy in which you can utilize their tech. In other words i find most of those placments crap. Case in point you put junk as ez no brain… he is also a no brain to kill to only reason you put im there is prolly cause your the one who wants to challenge him in a closed quarter fight.

i see ur a mercy main, didn’t i say mercy mains don’t get hurt?
n i put junk on no brain cus he gets random kills by spamming random spots and chokes on the map lol you don’t need to be a genius to know how to play this dude

I not a scrub who play 1 hero just because i play 1 hero more doesnt mean its my main…

you are comparing a rhythm game where you need to precisely point and click to music at an extremely fast pace to

waiting for an enemy to walk into ur crosshairs and clicking once in an FPS where there’s only 4 available heads you actively want to click

these are non comparisons and your “comparison” was so irrelevant its laughable

I see, your enemies seem to not learn,
God for you taking advantage of them.

So what you say is to play widow you actually don’t move your mouse.
I agree that this is one way to play the hero, which imho even tops mercy healbot or torb turret hammer playstile as the most boring one imaginable.

Sure if it works it works.
I just look at it a little bit more challenging.

Meaning actually moving the crosshair over the enemies heads by yourself.
And also considering less to zero peel.

I know, the dead mice widow playstile and it is imho way to rewarding and it should enforce her to actually aim… And not just area deny.

Aggresive widow playstile requires you

As i also consider my statement towards all gamemodes. Ofc more heavy towards my experiences which is qp, tdm, rarely comp.

Especially considering a tracer vs widow 1v1
She surely will just walk into your Shot :wink:

LOL right 225 hp hitscan is balanced