Hero bans make competitive unplayable

Yea just took me the three times to realize that your posts were nothing like you claimed. My fault for assuming someone posting in a thread would be adding something relevant to the thread

Like I said, I’d respond if there was anything ti respond to. But by your own admission your posts were all nothing. So I have nothing to respond to. Your own words kiddo not mine.

Reaching, sweets. Stop trying to make Fetch a thing :kiss:

You have a few faults here, and I forgive you. Now respond to me taking the time, care, and effort in replying to you with earnestness above, if you can.

So true AKJ, there’s just not enough DPS options.

After you get rid of Cass, there’s only 2 dps left, and they are always banned.

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Still waiting on you to say what I should be responding to when you keep saying nothing…

If you’re smelling burnt toast call for help

Did you just forget to read it, again? Should I post it two more times?

Yea there’s the nothing again.

You saying that your hero’s counter her. So it’s not an issue for you, yet for some reason it’s an issue for you hence the complaining about it.

Your entire argument boils down to “some people are upset she is banned”. Okay. And? Where is that a problem?

Go ahead and repost your non issue issues a 4th or 5th time. Maybe by the 100th you’ll start to realize just repeating something doesn’t make it true. Especially when you give nothing to support it.

And since I can see you’re actually going to hit that 100th repost, let’s just end the conversation because all you do is repeat things while adding nothing to support it. Not sure I want the constant notifications of someone trying over and over to tell me 2+2 =5 because they said so

Why (to you) is it ok that a hero is effectively deleted from the (comp) game, negating all the time, attention, skill, and effort her mains have put into her, especially after tolerating six reworks, the most of any other hero in the game?

How is that fair to those people? And why is it ok if it’s not?

Ask if you need it twice, again. Or maybe just read it 3x on your own before hitting reply.

Because people don’t like playing against her. Why do some menu items at a restaurant rarely get ordered? Because not everyone likes it.

Why is it okay that a hero people do not like even with constant reworks and changes made to her even when most people keep saying they don’t like her?

Additionally, you’re acting like she is the only one who has gotten changes and reworks and has gotten banned frequently. Many other hero’s are banned and I don’t see them coming to the forums everyday crying about it. Almost like it’s not that big of a deal if a hero is banned.

It is fair because there are still modes where there are no bans and games where she isn’t banned and others are. Where did the devs or anyone ever say that every hero would or should be given a perfectly equal split of play? It would be insane to think that and try to push it.

It literally boils down to “oh no I can’t play my preferred hero this match. Darn” and if that is such a big deal to you then maybe a T rated f2p video game is a bit too heavy for you

You’re not supposed to like how your enemies play. Kinda why they’re your enemies. Where are all the Lifeweaver complaints!?

You don’t get to tell everyone in the restaurant (or at your table) not to get something just because you don’t like it, though. And you don’t have an allergy, you just have a preference.

Ask the devs, it’s not the players of the hero’s fault. It’s also on the devs to fix it. Bans take it out on the players, though. Not the devs.

So they have to use the segregated game modes outside of the premium one, but you’re allowed to use the best modes and that’s fine by you because you play pristine heroes that people like you like, got it, got it. The system works and is fair.

That would be fine. If it wasn’t almost every match.

Any other great and equal and fair and balanced defences?

They exist. Just that no one is crying nearly as hard as the Sombra group.

You’re right, great thing I’m not telling you or anyone to like anything about it. And I’m not telling people not to like Sombra. They do that all on their own. They need no convincing.

And until then, people can ban her as much as they like. Even after that, people can ban her as much as they like. Same goes for literally any hero in the game.

No, they have different game modes for different preferences…like almost every game…? And there isn’t a premium mode either, everyone literally chooses to play whatever there preferred mode is.

Still not an issue because if you really wanted to play the hero every match you would go to a mode that enables you to do as such. Kinda like when it was suggested to find a game that lets you play the way you want the way a normal and logical brain would rather than staying and putting up with “almost feeling bullied” or “unfair” (completely fair) hero choices

Hard disagree.
Hero Bans allow us as a community to remove problematic meta’s and heroes. It is another form of data that Blizzard can use when it comes to balancing decisions.

Not saying they actually take that data into account, but it is data nonetheless.

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…who bans Hanzo?

It doesn’t happen too often at GM. It would most likely be because of a Tank who doesn’t want to play against it. It happens most often when I match against the same team twice in a row with a “fast” queue.

If it does, I’m fully prepared to play something else.

lol what.

i don’t… no i-

haha

How many times do we have to tell you this, old man!

No. Just get good, lol. Hero bans are good and have brought positive to the game.

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Possibly because they can’t play her. Maybe they have just cause. But since it’s not a you problem, who cares, right? The System Is Fair!

The issue is FOTMs change and eventually it could be a you problem. But not to worry if you main Blizz’s favs.

I feel like you think you cooked or said something even theoretically coherent at this restaurant, but all that’s available is, what was your menu item?

Doesn’t even have onions on it. :nauseated_face:

Now what does you telling others to like or not like Sombra have to do with her being banned, again? Literally nothing? Ty for bringing it up.

Which sucks, which is what I’m pointing out. There’s also no solution to that for those players at the moment. Which almost feels like bullying :wink:

But it doesn’t, does it? Cause Sombra is busy getting banned, isn’t she? Odd, that. An equal system, applied unequally, leads to inequalities. Shocking, really.

Maybe it’s not an equal nor good system after all?

Yeah but you get the highest, most competitive, prestigious mode as a space for just your club and not Sombra mains. Remember that you are allowed that privilege because you earned and deserve it, it’s not emotionally or arbitrarily applied, whatsoever; Sombra deserves to be banned and her mains deserve to be excluded from Comp. Their crime is enjoying and putting time in on the purple Mexican hacker.

It’s all simple and just fairness.

So Sombra mains who prefer Comp get to play… QP. Makes a lot of sense.

*to you

*just not if you want to play Sombra competitively.

If you do, then you need to get into the OWCS where she’s still not played because she’ll never be buffed enough to be good enough, there. Totally reasonable stance, and great advice.

Yes, you should drive undesirables away from your spaces just because you don’t like them, there. They can go and play Other Games. But… wasn’t OW the Other Game from all the CODs of the world? Yes, we should pander to Widow, McCree, and Soj, and Sombra can kick rocks.

What a strange turn of events. The inclusive game is now excluding heroes and whoever is excluded needs to Deal With ItTM and play the Other Games. Perfect solution!

What Other Shooter Game has a hero like Sombra, again?

Hmmmm…

Therein lies the issue. They’ve thus far showed jack from it over half a year. They haven’t even communicated anything to us in terms of timeframes, or what they’re doing with it, or how they plan to use it. All they’ve said is an aloof: we’re maybe working on Sombra again but who knows when she’ll be ready we don’t want to tell you in case we screw up like the last 6 times she was reworked. Communication is important to us, which is why we treat you like mushrooms!

Unhelpful, and not good enough.

That’s a fundamental issue with Blizzard, not the ban system itself.

So there is no other game mode in OW2 that allows you to play sombra without her being banned? Boy howdy do I have great news for you!

What other shooters have ban systems like this that leave one or more hero banned more than others and are still highly successful? Basically all of them.

Bans are here. People can ban who they want for whatever reason they want. You can agree with those reasons or not. They can still ban whoever for whyever. That does not in anyway make it unfair, especially given you can play her in any other game mode without fear of ban. Still 100% you problems but fantastic wall of words.

If you can’t adjust to Ashe when you call yourself a hitscan player, what does that say about you?