Having to Unlock Heroes is Good for Competitive Integrity

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It warms the cockles of my heart to witness the forums waking up to your bs.

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You’re misunderstanding it, that’s okay.

It warms my heart knowing I’ll be enjoying Kiriko on launch day while yall mald about F2P players having to unlock her :slight_smile:

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Once again like I said before. I dont know what you think you are achieving here. You are defending a blatantly anti-consumer decision that does nothing but harm the overall enjoyability of the game for people and you are sitting here on a high horse for no reason. People like you are why loot boxes plague every game these days. Its why pay 2 win is so prevalent. Its why all the coolest cosmetics are locked behind paywalls. Wake up. They dont know who you are. They dont care about you. Every time people make excuses and just allow this crap to continue it makes the situation worse and worse. There has to be a point where people wake up and say no. If they revert this change or even make it the first tier 1 unlock I will be happy and Im sure many others here will. But locking it behind the Battle Pass and sure before you say it, it can be “free” but there are still major P2W elements here when people can just instantly unlock the character by purchasing it. In the end it is YOU who have a flawed argument and frankly its kind of pathetic to see someone defend these decisions so vehemently.

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This is pretty standard F2P monetization.

F2P, costs money or time played for cosmetics/new characters

League, Valorant, Apex, Paladins, Smite, pretty much all of them

Either we get a live service game or we get a retail game. People have been begging for OW to be live service for years, here we are. Careful what you wish for I guess?

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The majority of the playerbase does not touch comp at all. There’d be no point in locking things behind a battlepass if that were the case.

And on the flip side, people who only play comp wont dip into casual modes just to unlock new chars, they’ll just keep onetricking and pointing fingers. There isn’t a way in which this doesn’t ruin competitive integrity.

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Poytheon I know you love Blizzard but I’m genuinely curious,is there something they could do that you 100% would’t defend?

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Threads like this are why I am glad I have the ability to mute certain users on this forum.

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Thanks, I forgot this was a thing.

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I don’t use it very often but it is a nice tool for those who do not see reason or logic.

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While I think that she will be locked for comp for maybe a few weeks or even the first season, I dont think this makes the situation any better. Bad practices should be called out and this boarders on P2W. I know its free to get her but… is it really needed to unlock her if its free?

I have some copium that there is a big misunderstanding or that we just have a few parts of the puzzel and the “unlock” is something simple like “Win 10 games as support” or such a thing.

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In theory this is true. But it would mean that those who never play comp have free access to the hero - no grind. I don’t think that would be seen as fair by all the comp players nor by Blizz.

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Jesus Christ we were JOKING when we said you’d make this post…

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You are taking dangerously high doses of copium.

At this point Aaron Keller could stream himself killing a dog and you’d spin it into an OW positive.

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You are legitimately on crack I think.

Take those rose tinted glasses off, seriously.

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They didn’t misunderstand, you just moved the goalposts.

Nothing in your OP suggested you were talking about a specific hypothetical situation. Even the title is “Having to Unlock Heroes is Good for Competitive Integrity” not “Having to Unlock Heroes Could be Good for Competitive integrity”

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But it… doesn’t give any experience for the hero in question! During the time you’re unlocking the character, you are by definition not practicing that hero! People on these forums will just think of the absolute stupidest arguments to simp for a multi-billion dollar company, I swear to god.

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Does playing alongside or against a hero not improve your knowledge of the hero? It does.

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do you even know what competitive integrity means

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