and neither of those heroes were underpowered at the time, it’s just other characters were stronger and needed toning down.
being weaker doesn’t automatically make them underpowered.
Dude
There is 0 way you just told me 2018 hog was not underpowered lmao
He was literally useless
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he could one shot more than half the roster. he wasn’t remotely useless
One shotting doesn’t matter when his actual contribution to the match was bad.
Like, this argument is horrendous. “Characters who can one shot are never weak”
Sombra’s emp is a powerful mechanic, does that mean if the rest of her kit sucks she isn’t bad?? No. It doesn’t.
by definition they can’t be weak if they can delete a hero in a single shot
Yes they can… because if their overall contribution to a match is still bad, that doesn’t matter.
Can hanzo one shot? Yes.
Can he do it consistently? No
Is he able to consistently challenge long range targets? No
Does his storm arrow suck requiring 4 hits to kill something? Yes
Is his ult horrible? Yes
You cannot just say “he can one shot he’s not weak” because he has literally 0 purpose in a match. He has no point to being picked, besides nichely being a check to sombra. You don’t say to your team “hey guys im gonna go hanzo so that we have a one shot”
hanzo is a DPS. his one job is to kill, which he can do very well, even unintentionally. the amount of value you get just by spamming his arrows into a chokepoint is insane and you cannot argue otherwise
also his storm arrows should take 4 hits to kill. they’re rapid fire, can ricochet and can crit damage.
I feel like people overestimate how often a “random” Hanzo headshot is. They definitely happen, I’ve gotten my fair share of LOLWTFBBQ chokespam headshots, but they don’t happen THAT often. They’re just more memorable because of how frustrating they are. Seriously, pick up Hanzo and fling arrows down the choke at neck height. You’ll get some silly headshots, sure, but you won’t be consistently wiping teams like that.
I do think there is an interesting discussion to be had about how Hanzo’s headshot impacts the overall strength of the character, and whether it’s holding him back on a wider scale - i.e, this character can one shot, so we can’t let him be too good in other areas, or he’ll run rampant. But I don’t know enough Hanzo to really make a statement on that front.
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Maybe in gold rank… most people see that and go a different direction. And even then, there are plenty of situations where there is no choke to spam
Again if youre saying the best attribute of the hero is randomly spamming a choke and hoping to kill someone i think that goes to show how bad the hero actually is
i guess doom isnt weak he can one shot off the map
yes and he cant do it consistently unless your a god with him making him very weak like doom and ball before his buff
I would be fine with nerfing his one shot ability, but buffing his movement.
I do not feel he is inherently underpowered. There have been plenty of times where he was meta. He might be underpowered at the moment (I do not feel that way, personally). However, it is not an innate issue with Hanzo. It is just the meta, I guess?
If you refuse to use cover, or a shield, and just run at them like a pit bull who found a new toy.
One shots aren’t problematic for the vast majority of players, only the ones who feel it’s unfair they can’t sit out in the open and not get picked for it.
I will never understand why people think getting sniped is a problem, I am new and don’t have an issue with either Hanzo, or Widow. In fact, I find Ashe far more annoying than a Widow or Hanzo, her potential is far more annoying than getting one shot.
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He got a super heavy nerf going into OW2.
They removed his thunder thighs… 
He no longer shatters any and all destructible objects by just jumping near them.
Buff Hanzo, keep the one shot.
Stop asking for the removal of everything guys, it’s actually just old.
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i dont say this much , but if you think he’s bad its a skill issue , a hero with a one shot and WALLS is never underpowered , hanzo requires technique and strategy when you aim , and if you master that , youre a monster on the field , if you flick like a headless chicken and spam storm arrows in panic , you’d think he’s weak , but if you wait for the perfect moment when a strafing enemy walks into your crosshair , or learn how to predict a shot against an enemy whos walking in a straight line , youll learn how disgustingly powerful he is , oh and please jump when you shoot your arrows , youll get way more headshots like that , hopefully these tips will make u better at him
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junkertown first point against widow , where is the cover ? i can give so many other examples but i know no one is gonna read them , also sheilds are so weak , i can burst a sigma sheild in 5 sec as bap , one shots are the problem
Hanzo is defined by his oneshots and to be fair that’s what a fair sniper is, one that has ballistics. Besides, he shoots arrows not bullets so I wouldn’t touch the projectile speed on his basic attack.
Storm arrow change looks fine but why the 4x hs multiplier? That makes a good Hanzo want to jump in front of the tank and just obliterate them and we didn’t even consider having a dmg boosting Mercy with him. I’d say go with 2.5x hs multiplier, even 3 would be pushing it.
Lunge is fine as it is. He’s a sniper.
It’s his ult that needs something extra.
Given the number of complaint threads here, i think we can say 1 shots are a problem.
Also, given that they force enemy players into an unfun, unempowered playstyle that’s very punishing for new players, i dare say that F2P design will mean that 1 shots and hypermobility will both be slowly removed from the game.
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you’re a terrible account of how balanced hanzo is, actually just delete yourself, you’re that useless