If you’re ONLY playing Baptiste, then that is doing something wrong.
There are situations where Baptiste is good, and there are situations where he’s not good. Your job as a support player is to know which hero to pick for which situation. That’s what competitive is all about.
He is a hard hero though. His winrate is only decent in masters and above. People in lower ranks need to learn him for when/if they get higher but I agree he isn’t a carry hero especially lower down.
Yeah, you dont play the game appropriately, and fall to bronze.
You throw.
You force bad picks.
You intentionally make bad choices.
Those are not ‘well I’m playing my best, swapping when needed, I just fell to bronze but I’m a good player’.
No.
Thats because I would assume, at Masters there are comp’s to take advantage of his healing. I highly doubt that happens below Plat, and his carry potential is next to zero.
So you totally forgot this is a team game, you punish others with that attitude. Your answer wasn’t any better dude.
subjective, If I’m a good player but am having a bad day with leavers, play with my terrible friends who I can sometimes carry but often not, learning how to play a new hero.
That’s not throwing. If everyone was forced to play one or two heros they are good at no one would be able to flex. People have the right to learn a new hero, the price often comes at a lose of SR. It’s not entirely fair to your team but players are doing what they can with the game and rules blizz set up.
“Good” is a subjective term and you have every right in setting your terms for what “good” is. Doesn’t mean anyone but you has to accept it.
You can’t learn to play in Comp without playing Comp. By your standards no one can play Comp because they haven’t played comp with the hero they have been using outside comp.
At a certain point you HAVE to play comp. Trash modes like QP (it’s fun for what it is but not a mode to learn anything outside the maps) won’t help you improve past a certain point.
I agree. You have to allow people to learn new heroes especially ones in the same class as your main.
This is why i refuse to try new heros in Comp i refuse to drop out of gold that i worked so hard to get to, if i fall to silvet or bronze i will be done with the game
There’s several ways you can learn a hero. One you can relentlessly one-trick a hero excepting the SR hit or you can willing swap the second things start going wrong to salvage a game.
The one-tricking method will hurt ur SR more while the second is a safer route. The difference is the rate at which you improve. I often do the second method when expanding my rooster but certain hero’s are far to difficult.
I had to go full on one-trick to properly learn Hammond. My SR dropped massively for that season but now I can safetly use him in Plat and my team is better for it. I can play every MT, and every OT except D.Va making me an extremely flexible tank player.
I both can adapt to multiple comps for my team and bait the enemy into counters.
Play Hammond for the first game well enough and the enemy will often pick counters for the second (Junk, Mei, Sombra, Pharah) only to get hit in the face by my Zarya.
That’s why there “but its a team game so if you don’t play that 1-2 heros you always play your throwing” doesn’t make sense to me. Me looking to improve myself becomes an asset to my team.
Bad players can also rise up through the ranks, fyi. Not saying it’s your case, but I’m saying that’s a thing.
It is only a rank. Losing is tough but I still enjoy the game. I could carry out of bronze with Lucio and get through Silver again if I fell out of it but I agree it is a lot of work due to unreliable team comps and leavers etc.
The game seems almost intentionally designed to discourage learning new heroes. You’ll never play a new hero quite as well as your mainstays at the rank you want to play them at.
I remember when I started trying to play Zarya in comp I dropped from low plat to mid silver. I eventually climbed back up when I stopped making mistakes on her but it was my choice to add another hero to my repertoire.
Having to risk your entire account’s SR to learn a new hero, especially in a new role, is a big part of why one tricking is so popular.
It is ironic because even Jeff has said they don’t want people one tricking characters and the community frowns on it but at the same time most people do it due to the SR hit undertaken when learning a new hero. The only way to get around this is to have alternate accounts.
To be fair the community only dislikes low-meta one tricks. They go absolutely nuts for a good Rein or Ana one trick.
That’s kind of why Blizzard can’t just out right ban one tricking since the community largely only views it as bad some of the time and that view per hero will change from patch to patch.
I mean, if you’re determined to main a brand new hero… Then yea… You might as well be starting from scratch again.
I fell 700 SR during a meta switch where I had to start putting a lot more focus into playing Tanks instead of Support. I got it back eventually, just took some time.
Don’t fret my friend, you’ll climb back. Just focus on improving your Baptiste play for now and it’ll happen naturally.
A bad new hero, maybe. I climbed with my Ashe that only had like 7 hours on it. I am a hitscan main, though. So it was easy.
If I just wanted to main Zarya one day, maybe I would drop to bronze. Idk.
Took me 9 season of solo que to reach gold, i am not giving that up no matter what
Dude, solo q is 90% RNG.
Has nothing to do with you beeing bad or good. Sooner ppl will realize that, the better
If we get 2/2/2 role queue, with at least a role SR, this will help.
OTOH, $20 for an account to learn on is not a bad investment and why so many people do it, to separate out their SR’s from their mains to the characters they are learning on.
I’ve fallen from plat to bronze in a weekend before. Weird stuff happens in this game. Especially when you only solo que.