Would you prefer someone with gold level mechanics on Ana? I assure you that you’ll get more heals with Mercy/Moira.
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Have to say, I like the name of the topic 
I agree that there are far too many double main heals in lower elos. I think it is because people do not know how to play with any other healer apart from those too, mostly and do not know how to play with off heals. They do not know how to avoid damage and take corners, do not know when to push or not to push, take duels, etc. so they expect to be healed at all times no matter where they are on the map.
I cannot tell you how many times I was asked to switch because I played off heals, and it was always with a comment “we need more heals, current heals are not enough.”
The more I play the more I see how bad double main heal comps are.
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thats usually the whole issue here. in gold (and low ranks/casual play) the players usually just take wayyyyy too much damage. i cant play zen or lucio when my tanks decide to just let themselves get melted in the choke all game long. no damage or speed boost will help them in that case. utility is only good if it is, well, utilised. no use in raining it onto my teammates for them to just do nothing with it.
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I agree, and that is the problem of the players not off heals. They are used to double main heal way too much so they do not know how to play if one healer picks off heals. Not to mention those people who play Lucio and only stay on heals. They are not using the hero to their fullest potential. At this point just switch to a main heal if you are “forced” to stick to your healing only.
There are so many matches where I was the one who was being way stubborn and did not switch, because I was angry, tilted and had enough of double main heals, but looking back and watching the replay I should have switched.
Sometimes they take so much damage that even double main heals cannot outheal it.
exactly. and in that case, the team as a whole simply lost. gg onto the next.
so many factors go into this game, and its silly to blame it all on the hero pick of a specific teammate. you can have all the meta heroes you want, but if theyre played badly youll still lose. i rather have people on heroes they know how to operate and get value out of, than some arbitrary “flavor of the week” meta hero.
Yes. Seen this way too much as well.
It does not happen a lot in low elos that people want to play Meta. They usually play whatever they want to play but on those rare occasions where someone asks for a Meta comp and people comply it ends up being shameful because people do not know how to play it and do not know why a certain Meta is Meta.
I count myself as well towards those people because I actually never had a chance to play Meta or learn how to play it. You cannot learn how to play Meta if out of the 20 matches you have played, 2 of them had people who actually wanted to play it.
My fav Tank combo is when people want to go “dive” and they pick Winston/D.Va and as soon as the spawn door opens, D.va goes left, Winston goes right and the fun begins
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I’ve seen a rise of Orisas recently in silver. 
As a former Orisa main, IMO a little strange, she was more easy to care for in the past. 
I’ve been playing in quick play recently and Moira is a ‘comfort’ pick for us noobs. Yes I can’t aim. I placed Bronze in comp so I’m talking about lower level games.
One thing that annoys me though is when the other player picks Mercy they use the heal beam by default rather than the damage boost when Mercy should be damage boosting by default especially when the team is at full health. I mean, let me the main healer heal, you (Mercy) can damage boost.
A lot of Mercy players seem annoyed when I tell them to damage boost instead of healing allies that are already full health.
Yeah been playing Lucio a bit to help against Snipers and it’s hard to watch my Tanks literally sit there and not make a move with my speed boost on. Sometimes you can force the issue with Lucio by wall-riding behind and booping the enemies forward past their Barriers.
Other times you just end up having to swap to your healing aura after watching them take damage.
yeah, but playing a comfort pick is like getting used to a bad habit. if you are playing just for fun, moira or mercy are alright, but in comp, aim for the best situational pick! if your teammate is stubbornly playing healbot mercy, your own actions won‘t have any impact - she literally steals your job and makes your moira gameplay meaningless. and vice versa.
the best option then is picking a more versatile support like ana or baptiste that can also do a significant amount of damage. even lucio and zenyatta are a better „offhealers“. you will see much more opportunities to manipulate your games in your favor.
remember: support is not only about healing. it‘s about rescuing, helping and enabling. and a real pro plays support heroes more or less like a dps with insane heals 
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I personally play Baptiste, Moira and Brig and learning Zen. Baptiste and Moira are my goto picks depending on the Tanks if the other Support picks an Off-healer. Usually in QP these days in any case so losing has no penalty.
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If the Ashe sucks balls, then I think keeping the tank alive is the better option, depends on the situation. I’m not gonna keep pocketing the pharah if she keeps flanking and gets 0 kills every fight
Oh, I’m all for abandoning the dead weight on my team as soon as I identify it. I think the bigger issue in that game was they thought the better play was to always ignore the Ashe to heal tanks, which I find to be subpar play.
In that particular situation no one had an issue with my play, they were just really mad because they saw my buddy use blue beam when they were not full health. I think a lot of players think they have to heal all damage before doing anything else when they are new to the game. Things like juggling heals between people or upping damage for a bit to confirm kills seems wrong if you have that mindset, I guess?
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i used to flex to anything and everything even it i wasn’t skilled at it, and now i do something what i call “flex within reason”
i just play within my hero pool but still to the benefit of the team. with support that’s been lucio bap zen and brig / ana (although my ana on pc hasn’t been too hot this season so it’s been more brig)
dps it gets a bit more interesting because i subjected myself to playing different, more niche heroes. like i’ve been playing more sombra and mei. echo and tracer i’ve always played. i played soldier earlier bc we had a zen/lucio heal on our team
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A question: Is there a reason some Mercys love to bind “NEIN!” (No) to a key and hit it to all possible occasions? 
I think I heard a “No!” one time from Ana, never (?) from other supports … 
ill be honest, i just came for medic jokes…
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mercy is very very useful at low ranks like gold because dps die for no reason.
low rank tanks take so much damage that they cannot be saved except through moira heals or ana shots + nade. But bad anas take poke and immediately grenade themselves and then their tank dies in the lower ranks. So they get feedback saying that their ana is not good.
Meanwhile moira and mercy contribute to them winning so they become more and more popular.
I personally despise every double main healer comp without bap because there are no true plat players good enough with sleep dart to shut down nano genji. the reality is plat ought to be filled with either bap/lucio/zen on every healer comp when the enemy has a genji down there. But there are so many main healer players that you constantly see mercy + ana and then the team wipes to nanoblade 3-4 times and loses. They then claim, “but pros do it”
but pros can hit sleep darts. pros will probably shut down at least 1 blade out of 3/4.
why can’t they just play lucio or zen and push Q? it’s way easier.
so you complain about gold picks, and I’m complaining about plat picks. I’m pretty sure the master tier players will complain about diamond picks as well. But there are reasons that people prefer certain characters, and usually it has to do with what “worked” at the tier below
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takes one good Ana to nullify any meaningful impact from BOTH support heroes
But
If you expect a gold mercy to damage boost the DPS at least, you’re g0ddamn wrong.
In same rank All I see is enemy Ana good, my teammate Mercy baD. This can happen in all roles in different situations. How is this any different than the dpses refusing to even try hitscan if needed? Or tanks not trying something different when it’s not working?
Try to make some healer friends that only play what you want to see on your team. You can’t really fix the rng factor of solo queue.
Sometimes I’m a bit wary on healer, about my random healer partner. Maybe they’re very dps heavy and I’ll have to cut off the slack? Maybe they are infact trying Ana, but due to the rank they aren’t aimgods? Sometimes you do have to ‘‘stack heals’’ because your partner in crime ain’t quite getting it done. At least in my experience. I have of course seen some amazing Anas out there, and playing Zen or whatever with them has been a blast! But you simply can’t expect randoms in low rank to do their job every single time. Because neither can I, why else would I be in gold?
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