Genji vs moira explained kinda

why is everyone still on the moira hate train. y’all got what y’all wanted, she’s gotten nerfed a lot already. you would think the week she’s banned would be the week where ppl aren’t screaming about her.
Moira counters Genji in the sense that hitscan counters pharah or reaper counters Winston or mei countering roadhog.

people really need to calm down and realize that they’re fights that certain characters will be at a disadvantage against, period. In a 1v1 setting (which is unreasonable to begin with) a moira would likely lose to a McCree, Hanzo, or reaper. she can’t ever kill a roadhog by herself, and all the tanks in the game cause issues for her.

Genji can definitely win the moira match up, a lot of people like to make it sound like she snaps her fingers and he just dies. but that’s not a fight he should be taking if he doesn’t care about watching her cds or waiting for her to be vulnerable.

unless you have ideas for a compensation buff(s) for removing her “ease of use”, this is just blatant nerf moira thread number 46

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it actually is lol, i have aspergers so I tend to be too direct with people and i dont realize what i say makes people mad / upset since im just saying what i think is true

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No the point is at most I can flex with Genji. Even though I have a ridonk 40 something elim stat on overbuff which I assume is back during launch where his ult was easy mode team wipe.

I can kill Moira with Genji but if I am playing DPS I would pick Soldier, Mcree, Mei or Reaper depending on map and call it a day.

I don’t want to hear the cry cause Genji has a counter. Are you Bastion? Are you F tier. Do you have so many counters you insta-die if you peak out from the map like Pharah?

Your life ain’t hard. You got two scientist that counter you. And both do the lowest DPS in the game.

Boo friggin git gud Hoo

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In the words of Moira herself: Stupidity is not a right

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I would say more of a moderate skill floor. It’s easy to be really bad with them but it’s not hard to get value.

for the moira mains that i see sometimes its not a right its a requirement

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Dude this is pathetic. In a vacuum Genji doesn’t take a whole lot of skill to kill the supports, in fact it take the support more skill to kill Genji. This is undeniable fact. Genji is not some mysteriously hard hero to play. There’s only one support that it takes hard effort to kill and its Moira.

If you don’t believe me go 1v1 all the supports in FFA besides Moira, 9.5/10 Genji steamrolls.

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Sad, really. Putting your opinion and thoughts out there deserves a response whether you agree with it or not or if you think its coming from “delusional people”

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no competent genji or support player would say that their 1v1 matchups are 95/5 genji favored. holy moly the lack of knowledge.

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there are definitely several delusional players to point out that talked in this thread, but im not going to close it

bap wins most of the time
moira wins most of the time
lucio can win 5/10
zen can win 5/10 from his damage output but is vulnerable
brig cant really do enough damage but her survivability is good
ana wins easily
mercy can just fly away usually but shes free

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also zen/ana/baptiste have guns that are considerably better than genji’s when they are outside of close range (~5m) with zen having one that I consider equal at close range.

These numbers for FFA are all made up and exaggerated by both sides to try to make the argument fit their narrative.

The lack of context. It’s going to depend on the map for a lot of these heroes, then matchmaker, skill, and if players are going to cheese with meta tanks or meta DPS.

Moira ain’t doing jack in FFA Petra. She’s too slow, too many sniper lanes and map is far too open for her ball.

Lucio same thing. He’s gonna need environmental or close quarter wall rides to keep up with the kill count of DPS to hope for a too 4 finish.

Then how many Junkrats, Roadhogs, and Mei’s other heroes have to overcome.

If ya losing FFA’s to support that’s a damn skilled player and you not being good with a hero.

Show your work cause these are imaginary numbers limited to your own gameplay experiences

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Why is this belief still a thing. He is absolutely high skill.

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Then y’all are pretty bad. You can outmaneuver bap and just wait for him to pop IF.

Lucios have to be damn good better than genjis to consistently win

Mercy is eZ,

Brig just spam her shield because it’s easy to hit.

Zen isn’t that hard either with his big hitbox and projectiles.

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Compared to what and to which hero.

Like I can’t really say skilled that deflect. Its an automatic bailout defense move.

At the same time I CAN save damn Genji clutch deflect on burning your Swift strike to save us from Zarya to deflect her ult back in her face.

I think there are things about heroes that are high skill but at the same time we have ults and abilities on heroes that make the skill degree meh.

This is still an arcadey casual game searching for it’s competitive soul imo.

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Bruh if you can’t beat the other supports with Genji that’s obviously a you problem. Why do people feel the need to blame the characters instead of their lack of ability to play them??? In case you forgot, Moira was designed to beat Genji precisely because Genji rolls all over the other supports.

This is just another entitled Genji main “support should be free food for me” thread. As if we haven’t seen this thread before. Literally every day some Genji main makes one of these since she was released. Usually duplicates by the same people. I’d bet 1 million $ you’ve already made multiple.

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I’d bet 1 million $ you didnt read my original topic all the way through

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So you owe me $2 million now. Thanks for proving me right.

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yeah if you had read it you wouldn’t have typed out that original reply though so imma say that i owe you -2 milly bro

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now listen here… moira is there for all the bad teammates that don’t peel for you, moira is there for the 2 dps and lucio harrasing you at the same time, moira is there when you have to heal a lot but still have to help dps (zen is better at dps bit the heal not)… moira is there because the team game it should be, is not player by most people.