🐸 Frogger On Mercy: The Worst Healer In The Game Right Now

[Shrinkray-1853]

That’s kind of how I see her too Cleo. She, Rein, S76 were most likely the first characters they penned out. Simple concepts and easy to wrap your head around. Someone could jump into the game, pick them up, and have some fun.

[Cleopatra-21937]

Back there that was somewhat enough. Especially with Mercy having way to undo many deaths.

[Cleopatra-21937]

Maybe it’s because I am Russian, but I value simplicity and reliability. Not just in terms of “having fun”, but as way to reduce overall stress - teammates may be a bit more calm, if they are 100% certain, that healing won’t run out at any moment. That it’s here to stay, and won’t disappear like dust or cut out randomly, at most inconvenient moment.

[N7Warrior-1327]

Well…no. she does better now on average than with mass rez.

Now, personally, I think that’s because of players and her needing more in her kit but… It’s what it is.

She isn’t defined by heals. That doesn’t and hasnt ever made her good.

[Cleopatra-21937]

Probably because of her new ult. Since now you don’t have to juggle teammates, if you got one ready.

[Xaby-21512]

Could it be that lucio provides speed boost for the whole team, or can amp up 52heal/s for the whole team at the same time. Or that he can use sound barrier which can give shields to survive nano blades or any strong ultimate combos? Could it be that zenyatta can deal crazy amount of damage himself, has a team wide damage boost, ultimate which can cancel any kind of ultimate too? Mercy doesn’t have any of those kind of utility

[Cleopatra-21937]

Mercy used to have quite potent team wide utility, but let’s not open forbidden texts.

With exception of Mercy and Baptiste, other main healer ults can be used as pseudo off-healer ults. Old-ult-that-shall-not-be-named also had that quality.

[Yara-11173]

@Nere-2268

But the skill elitist gatekeepers will be chanting how “mercy is fine”, even if she’s not been fine for a long time, because they don’t want to see this “skilless” hero viable as metapick.

It’s a very weird situation.

We want less burst heal, less CC, less AoE heal, less support dueling damage heroes, less hard counters, less tanky brawly metas…

But the single target, non-CC, non-burst healer that enables DPS spread out comps and doesn’t counter anything must be kept to an irrelevant level for 2 years (and counting).

Well, pick your poison. I welcome Ana metas, but the nano ain’t going to Blades and Visors, it’s going to my hammer.

[N7Warrior-1327]

I agree valk is a major issue for her. But as long as she has it and everything else …nah. heals isn’t going to do anything for her.

Moreover, in consideration of other heroes… Especially her counter design -moira- imo, mercy has too much heals now (and Ana) and definitely should not be getting a heal buff

[Cleopatra-21937]

@Yara-11173

It’s a very weird situation.

Nothing too weird about it. We got almost entire category of supports filled with heroes, that thrive in supporting brawls.

So, how are you going to have “less” tanky brawl comps, if literally all supports by design work best with it?

[Yara-11173]

@Cleopatra-21937

So, how are you going to have “less” tanky brawl comps, if literally all supports by design work best with it?

That’s what I comment I find weird, people want a meta that should be enabled by Mercy, but they want to do it around Ana, which won’t happen.

[Cleopatra-21937]

Technically it could happen, but in practice, it’s too unreliable. Ana can support diving team from distance, but she is vulnerable to dive herself.

[Nere-2268]

Horrible concept if mercy is even viable to run innit?

How dare we have mercy instead of skilled Ana lucio every single time?

It’s like people enjoy getting bucketfulls of anti-heal thrown onto them or something. Because it’s uh, skillfull. Yea being hard cc’d and taking naps all the time and getting run over by boosted people is fun I guess.

Mercy is the only healer who’s kit doesn’t disable anybody on the enemy team from doing anything. And nobody wants mercy to be the sole viable healer, but a supposed best raw healer in the game should not be so piss poor at actually keeping people alive.

[fenix-13467]

i think i read somewhere geoff said few years back the main thing about mercy is mobility, the heal are only second

if this what dev had in mind

maybe give R new mercy ability, 5 sec cd, can GA without an ally, just press R and u fly into your cursor like GA do, so she less dependent to their team

with this and super jump i think she will be even harder to kill

[Lullabeii-1726]

I can survive just fine as is, my team on the other hand…

[SidewaysGts-1926]

@Yara-11173

Fortunately, we are smart people capable of using data better than that

Care to lay that data down for me? I’d like to see it

[Yara-11173]

@SidewaysGts-1926

Care to lay that data down for me? I’d like to see it

I didn’t mean we have better data, I meant we can use it better than solely picking a single measure to derive conclusions when more observations present themselves abundantly.

[KrikKrak-1687]

Unfortunately someone has to be worst. Everyone can’t be #1. One day Mercy will get QOL changes and the Forums will just melt down about it being OP.
So play her, or don’t. Maybe find another hero, or don’t. Be ready though with your cry of OP when she does get a small QOL change.

[SidewaysGts-1926]

@Yara-11173

I didn’t mean we have better data, I meant we can use it better than solely picking a single measure to derive conclusions when more observations present themselves abundantly

That’s fine

I’m just curious what other data/numbers you’re actually looking at in the first place to make that conclusion.

[Yara-11173]

@SidewaysGts-1926

That’s fine

I’m just curious what other data/numbers you’re actually looking at in the first place to make that conclusion.

OWL pick rates from 2 years and counting.

Overbuff rates from high ranks on PC.

Dev’s own comments.

Observations on how the game works and evolves.

Experts’ opinions.