Forum balance in a nutshell

[Nox-23390]

he’s probably the best support in the game since launch

Since launch?
The 150 hp paper Zen?
Nah, not really since launch.

[UnstableNPC-1158]

alright since like season 3

[Project-21132]

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/reaper-and-mei-are-overbuffed/383052

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/if-you-could-remove-a-character-who-would-it-be-and-why/41538

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/mei-is-kinda-getting-nerfed/382970

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/mei-should-only-have-200-hp/382894

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/put-mei-in-tank-role/382718

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/mei-vs-tank-is-too-annoying/382637

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/do-you-think-mei-should-have-a-rework/382566/1

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/notice-how-mei-came-on-scene/382170

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/mei-primary-nerf/377234

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/if-we-are-going-to-nerf-mei-it-has-to-be-her-ultimate/381832

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/mei-cc-area-denial-is-overpowered-in-new-2-2-2-environment-and-needs-a-change/381868

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/nerf-mei-already/381717

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/seems-like-mei-doomfist-and-reaper-are-the-next-targets/382072

I’d like for you to sit down, and rest your case.

[MARTINHO-21999]

Do you have a minute to talk about Brigitte?

[Project-21132]

Do not speak that ancient, cursed name, i was there at its creation.

[anon18342234]

@Project-21132

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/reaper-and-mei-are-overbuffed/383052

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/if-you-could-remove-a-character-who-would-it-be-and-why/41538

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/mei-is-kinda-getting-nerfed/382970

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/mei-should-only-have-200-hp/382894

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/put-mei-in-tank-role/382718

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/mei-vs-tank-is-too-annoying/382637

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/do-you-think-mei-should-have-a-rework/382566/1

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/notice-how-mei-came-on-scene/382170

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/mei-primary-nerf/377234

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/if-we-are-going-to-nerf-mei-it-has-to-be-her-ultimate/381832

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/mei-cc-area-denial-is-overpowered-in-new-2-2-2-environment-and-needs-a-change/381868

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/nerf-mei-already/381717

https://us.forums.blizzard.com/en/overwatch/t/seems-like-mei-doomfist-and-reaper-are-the-next-targets/382072

Reaper and Mei are overbuffed

We basically got goats back, two high sustain heroes are the top meta in OWL? Hmmm, surprise… it looks a bit like goats… and both can heal themselves, reaper ridiculously. Both of them are overbuffed right now and they just were in a sleeper state. All DPS need nerfs, every single one of them. Tanks are getting more and more frustrating to play cause you can’t do anything alone, while dps do everything alone.

If You Could Remove a Character, Who Would It Be and Why?

I’d remove Junkrat in a heart beat. Everything about his kit makes me angry. Bastion is a close second.

Mei is kinda getting nerfed

As is every hero that inflicts a Slow effect. Since Slows won’t stack next patch. For instance, Reinhardt isn’t going to be nearly immobile anymore after getting one tick of slow. Then putting his barrier up for a self-slow. And currently OWL isn’t playing with these changes to Slow effects. Most notably, Halt + Frost won’t do a double slow, next patch.

Mei should only have 200 HP

250 HP for a character that has a wall, can self heal (and be invuln) and who makes a ton of space because you can’t get near her…that is too much. Reduce her health to 200

Put Mei in tank role

Mei has too much utility and a cc ultimate. Her kit is basically a tank kit CC wall freeze ,self heal and cc ult. You can already see its an issue in owl stage 4.

Mei vs tank is too annoying

I’m fine with her coming up to you and freezing you and killing you, mostly because she needs to get really close to you to freeze you. But with tanks it’s just: Freeze Shoot Not dying Freezing again Shooting Not dying Freezing AGAIN Do you understand why I don’t like that? All I want is After Mei’s freeze stops lasting you gain immunity against it for a short while Because getting frozen over and over again is just aggravating

Do you think Mei should have a rework?

She can either dominate a match or get completely run over and contribute very little. When she dominates a match it feels horrible for the people against her because usually it’s just going around freezing people. When she gets run over it feels horrible for everybody in the Mei’s team as they will barely contribute. With all the reworks that went in for Torb, Symmetra & Brig; I wonder if the Dev/QA team have considered looking into Mei and changing/improving her play style.

Notice *how* mei came on scene

It was back to back widow v widows before one side decided to go with more team play. Mei wasn’t the go to. She came from the idea to work with her team. Suddenly that held more stable results than one v ones on widow. But both saw equal results. One just “felt” more secure even though the stats were the same. I hope the Devs account for this before meis rework 3 months from now Edit- just to be clear, I’m just sharing my observation about owl and balance …

Mei primary nerf?

Mei’s primary is great, but as soon as she gets a hold of someone (especially tanks) she can just freeze them OVER…AND OVER…ANd over…and over…and over again, leaving room for no counter play. So to give a bit of counter play I think it’d be nice to add something along the lines of invulnerability after you’re unfrozen. It just feels broken not being able to escape even after you unfreeze. It could be called frostbite and makes the enemy invulnerable to freeze for 2 seconds or something. I don’…

If we are going to nerf mei it has to be her ultimate

let me start with, I really like Mei, she is one of my mains and I play her all the time… but I feel like her ultimate is toopowerful for overtime. Currently Mei can kinda just throw down her ultimate in overtime, on cart or wherever, and it can really stop the enemy from contesting point becuase the whole thing is being frozen. I dont think mei needs nerfs but If she got one I’d turn her ultimate into a slow area, where everyone moves at 33% speed but cannot be frozen without mei going out of…

Mei cc/ area denial is overpowered in new 2-2-2 environment and needs a change

I stopped watching during the GOATS meta as the games started to blur together for me, but now I love watching again. Seeing professional gameplay and strategies has been really entertaining, but one questionable hero I’m seeing a lot of is Mei. When I’m watching games, a Mei pick from one team demands a Mei from the other almost every time. That’s fine, for example a Widow pick sometimes creates a similar situation. The thing is that when I watch Mei, her contribution comes from what I feel isn…

Nerf mei already

Nerf mei, she had way to many QoL changes and pure buffs, she needs nerfs, right now, before its to late.

Seems like Mei, Doomfist and Reaper are the next targets

I see multiple topics about those three right now, that they are op, low skill or whatever. Because of 2-2-2 and OWL-pickrates. After the forum managed to get them nerfed, we can start over with Tracer, Widow, Genji and Hanzo again. haHA.

[Grumpy-12923]

and people have been complaining about Mei’s anti-fun kit since the game was in beta. It’s not new.

[UnstableNPC-1158]

lmao “I’d like to share with your the story of our savior of suffering”

I’d like for you to sit down, and rest your case.

I humored you and checked 4 of the link cause I’m assuming you just “meI” in the search and copied every link you could find without looking at them, btw nox your topic is the last one.

16 hours ago is the first, 3 days ago is the last and the two in the middle are from 2 days ago. Like I said “SHHHHHHhhhhhhhh”

Your tearing a bandaid off a healing wound and risking infection. And tell me to sit down again and Imma make a 3 page document about everything oppressive about mei

[Nox-23390]

@UnstableNPC-1158

btw nox your topic is the last one.

Aye, you got me.
Gotta leave.

[Project-21132]

And it all comes full circle.

[Meowjoker-1311]

What kind of drugs are you on right now?

Hanzo is still being moaned about.

[Grumpy-12923]

I’m pretty sure you could make Hanzo legitimately F tier and people would still complain about him being busted more than at least half the roster.

[Meowjoker-1311]

You could make all flavor of the month F tier and there will be someone that moans about it.

Like DF after the air lock nerfs. I killed a Rambo ana with NerfFist and I got called cancer XD

[UnstableNPC-1158]

in 2023 he now uses a slingshot that fires pingpong balls

I was using my 3000 damage genji ult and I slipped on a ping pong and fell off the map. This is ridiculous how am I supposed to get my 6K tactical nuclear airstrike kill streak rewards with these ping pong balls all over the map, nerf hanzo already it’s too OP I trip over my feet" -sincerely GenjiMain1337uberHaxorOWLpro

[ŜĔVĔNƗNĈĤĔŜ-2689]

Mei gets played more often:
NEEEEEEEEEERF MEI, SHE’S SO OP, BROKEN HERO, I CAN’T FOCUS HER WITH MY TEAM, SO SHE’S OP NOW

Okay, listen… Mei is CANCER to play against. As is my own main, so i don’t even mind that so much.
She can be annoying to deal with, especially if you’re playing a tank.
Yet i’ve never called her op. She has clear weaknesses and while she might need some minor adjustments… I don’t think she needs a true nerf at all.

Hanzo on the other hand…
It feels as if he’s simply doing too much. His kit is simply overstuffed. One-shot, Tank-busting, Infra-sight AND Mobility on top?
Something just has to go…

[MrSandvich-21925]

I CAN’T FOCUS HER WITH MY TEAM, SO SHE’S OP NOW

Wow GG great way to say that a hero’s balanced when the first counter you propose involves teamwork/communication between team members, something that Overwatch famously lacks.

[Aíres-1989]

I never said Mei is OP AND A BROKEN HErO, if you read my post you’d know that it was a suggestion and I don’t care if it actually happens or not, though many people see it as an actual problem. It wouldn’t actually affect Mei in any sort of way and would reward players for higher skill who can pull off kills reliably and not just refreezing the enemy to pull it off (mainly tanks).

[Elli-11368]

I don’t think I’ve seen much of anyone saying that she’s overpowered. She has the same problem as a handful of other heros in this game:

Doomfist
Sombra
Brigitte 1.0
Widowmaker

She is NOT fun to play against. It’s not that she’s hard to play against, or overpowered, or difficult to synergize with. She’s just simply un-fun and a negative impact on the game as a whole. Enjoying playing any specific hero should not come at the detriment of ruining the game for 6 others.

[Restart-11370]

At that time, they complained he is such a troll pick and need a buff.

[tacobellftw-11296]

Mei is really just unbearable on 2 cp. My God do I want to punch the screen when I face a defense mei on hanamura…