I think that the key is to play differently.
Opposition should have those types of players as well.
You need to be killing them faster than enemy kill yours.
Easier said than done on support.
It’s just extremely hard. I have even had coaching from A10. I did climb a bit but just the same thing
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This alone shows you don’t understand what skill based matchmaking means.
Are much greater than you think. If we assume your actual performance is plat 5 then if you are at plat 2 the chances of a loss streak are greatly improved because if you play enough games you will oscillate around plat 5. The chances are much greater than that suggested by flipping a coin. At plat 2 you are a long way from where your ability places you.
You really should be focusing on improvement rather than trying to blame the matchmaker for trying to make you lose games. Why you and not somebody else? Or is it trying to bring everybody down. Think about how ridiculous those statements are.
I started in Bronze, currently making it through Plat… I’m a very low elo lol. If you want to improve and stop making excuses, you’ll climb. Trust me.
Plat is not Low elo. lol you are delusional. You climbed easily because you are of a much higher skill level than low elo players. Telling a low elo player it’s easy is outright ignorant. A bronze/silver player can’t make up for 4 or even 3 bad players on their team, but w.e you keep stroking that ego.
How does that explain absolute complete braindeads ending up anywhere above bronze 3?
You realize that you’re admitting that the only way to climb is to get better at the game… It doesn’t matter if you solo q, or group q, you’re saying that being more skillful than others will help you climb. You can’t blame your team or the matchmaker, it’s all on you.
so you agree you can also outcarry a 2vs5 fight in gold/plat lobby?
Would be sick tough, can you stream it?!
Thats just a theoretical phrase - it should be like that. But it isn´t.
You would admit, that it is OK to play 2vs5 and if you are better you will win it?
I wondered this too, then I came on here to complain(several times), and rather than ignore the criticism, I took everything I was told and arrived at the common denominator… I was holding myself back.
Now when I feel like my team is “absolute braindead” I check myself and consider what I can be doing to improve my team’s chances of success. Regardless of the bad decisions they make, I try to figure out how I personally can be doing any better and compensate for their gameplay(without overreaching).
Yes, I may be enabling bad players to climb by picking up the slack they’re leaving, but I’ll be damned if I’m not going to give it everything I’ve got. And lately, I’ve ranked up every 7 wins.
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There you go :))
gg go next? Would you look at that now the enemy team has leaver
Does it work like that? I thought server issues just cancel the game without any rank adjustments like in OW1. Oh well, I’ll just win next game.
I mean yes and no. Of course there are leavers and smurfs and all that but they don’t make up such a huge amount of the player base. Smurfs seem to actually be very few and far in between nowadays. Now it’s just new players trickling into comp. They all drop like a rock in rank which is honestly my biggest issue. They shouldn’t start so high because they ruin games. Now does that stop you from climbing? Absolutely not!!! Actually it should make it easier.
I checked your video, there was 1 new player. The Sombra has the understanding of Sombra similar to what a Gold would. She seemed to just be having a bad game probably. There is no way that’s a new player. Point is, you had a new player, it happens. Now just avoid them, and queue next. You seemed to be doing relatively good, I think you can climb with time.
The amount of those games is just to high as i would ignore it.
So a sombra is gettin into gold/plat when even she did not hacked one healt pack for someone? Nah cmon. Thats bronze level other comments atleast were admitted to it.
And thats just one example i have a ton of them also in dps. Video just not finished yet
Watch the amount of leavers midgame, just 17 out of arround 30
And i also screened the games were enemy leaves it was arround 1.5% so nothing to compare. Nothing equal.
The amount of delusion and gas-lighting in this thread is depressing, but not unexpected. Keep believing you make a meaningful difference in this game. Keep believing that this game is 100% on the up and up. Keep believing that no corporation has ever taken extreme advantage of their consumer base in an unregulated market. Carry on children, carry on.
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I meanwhile think some of this accounts are just blizz accounts…
Usually people get outplayed by having no prove. I have it, post it, replay codes, leavers midgame, 0skill players in gold/plat lobby and they just ignore it.
Oh, wow true. I will just not post my excuse im wrong or anything they just move to next topic „get gut“ or „you deserve your rank“
I want to hear from someone how i could outcarry those 17 games shown were people leave and even more leave.
I want to hear, that arround 30 lose caused by someone leaves midgame have NO impact after it stops a winstreak.
I want to hear it.
They would just agree a paradox.
Blizzard is talking about discrimination is bad and have no place in this world. Yes ofc, but your playerbase is just what for you then?
If someone who just play the game would turn off the feature when people leave midgame it count as a lose, i wouldn’t have stoped ranking up and ganking people in lower elo for longer as it has to be. It is not fun, to have 60 elims on support only. It is rude and boring. Give me my rank i have a competition with my mates. But dont stop my winstreak to get even harder matches afterwards just because the quitter mentality is up.
Who don’t saw that? Leaving has to be a massive huge problem, why no change?!
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That doesn’t answer the question though which was if ALL players are being placed with higher skilled opponents until they reach “equals”, then this does not explain how the players with bronze sensibilities are ending up in gold + games. Something is wrong. Things don’t add up. We will never know the answer.
Oh, that’s either the broken matchmaking, or good players carrying. No fix for that. Just luck of the draw.
Like I just had a genji who was getting eaten alive by a zarya (stupid for going after the tank and not the supports). They swapped to torb… So obviously the zarya was fully charged almost for the rest of the map. People are stupid. Plain and simple.
New accounts start in gold, get a few lucky wins, leavers on enemy team, tank diffs. They place high gold/plat without having a clue what they’re doing.
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As much as i want to believe that, its not always the case.
Which i believe everyone is trying to say.
Even if i had 20k heals every game as a solo q support and i lost those games, i dont climb because i lost. 6 games in a row…
I dont control the other players on my team and if the other support (ana) decides to go to the spawn door of the attackers on defense, and dies, and we lose first check point in a game that snowballs…
How does me performing well change that outcome if im a support with no one shot capabilites to turn that around?
Thats a true story btw. An actual game ive played.
The players you get in your team can, without a doubt in my mind, be a detriment to your progress.
Its been this way for weeks now.
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I agree, If I win too many in a row…“Im like Oh no I F’d up”…now I gotta lose 5 matches in a row. As I get put into matches with all new players against a team of pros.