Peeps are still worshipping a guy that said he quits OW but still sticking around like forever? Cringe.
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I don;t think lore-wise Orisa’s wanted, lol.
And Hog is no slouch in games these days, even if he is wanted, lore-wise. 
Easier to play generally with any mechanical skill.
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Playing Reinhardt into an orisa is not fun and he feels useless. Reinhardt’s hammer turns into a pool noodle when he fights orisa.
Reject the GOWP
Embrace new creators
Edit: ayo! post 2000! based as frump!
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Orisa taking over the meta was expected with all the microbuffs she got.
Right now it’s stuck in pro-play, but Orisa is seriously not that hard of a tank to play, so expect maybe next season in ladder to be it potentially, especially if the Ram armor bug gets fixed.
Until then, ladder is Dva/Ram with an offset to JQ/Winston comp in some maps.
Juno + Brig/Ana seems to also be ladder meta, more than Kiri/Lucio from what I see so far.
And DPS is all over the place in ladder.
This matchup doesn’t even feel that bad anymore they gigabuffed Rein too
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It is just annoying because the nerf to displacement resistance has Orisa grabbing you off the floor by your face. I get to feel like a twink in the game. But I would rather play against her than Rammegatron any day of the week.
Ram Rein is basically 50/50 now too
Not when I am playing Reinhardt!
Ramattra was basement tier in ladder play, at least in Top500. Did he really come up over the last week or two? And Orisa was the absolute worst.
Also which microbuffs are we talking about for Orisa? The 10% speed penalty reduction and what else?
20 Jun 2024
Developer Comments: Orisa’s survivability was reduced more than necessary in her last round of changes so we’re partially reverting the cooldown increase to Javelin Spin.
Javelin Spin
- Cooldown reduced from 9 to 8 seconds.
9 Jul 2024
Developer Comments: The Fortify and Javelin Spin abilities were weakened further than necessary when Orisa was overly dominant. She has not been performing well since then but in this patch where we’re broadly adjusting how impactful the role is. So, there is room again to return some of Fortify’s effectiveness.
Fortify
- Duration increased from 3.5 to 4 seconds
20 Aug 2024
Developer Comment: Orisa is still underperforming so we’re increasing the impact damage of Energy Javelin to better reward accuracy with the ability.
Energy Javelin
- Impact damage increased from 60 to 80.
and now the 10% speed buff which makes the movement speed penalty basically unnoticeable during fortfiy compared to 20%. it’s over the course of a few months but they do culminate into Horse dominance somewhere down the road
Flats says a lot of things.
I guess he’s bound to be right about some of them.
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Streamers are cringe and not worth the attention they are given.
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Ram requires a specific comp, but yes Ram is pretty beefy with the Nemesis armor bug currently (and one of the main reason why he’s played probably).
I guess we’re 2 worlds apart in ranking if the Rams you get are F-tier. Ram’s been around for a little bit (and has been on the rise since the Asia games where his comp was featured a ton as well).
Otherwise it’s really either the Dva/juno comp or the Ram/juno comp, anything else may work, it’s just these 2 comps are bulky and kill fast currently.
I guess? Her Fortify is still terrible compared to what it used to be since it used to give her a speed boost, not a penalty. She isn’t in season 2 form or anything.
To put it another way, I don’t see her moving from the absolute bottom of Top500 to meta over a single 10% reduction to her speed penalty in Fortify.
I dont think orisa is that good even yet. Maybe she works in very specific situations/maps.
But yeah its an old thing in ow balancing they keep giving some hero(es) small buffs one after another and “suddenly” they’re strong.
Top500 Ramattra is third from bottom. Not that I’m Top500 but…
Now open the game and open T500 in NA/Asia/EU on the tanking role.
It’s more accurate if you’re gonna go throught T500 stats than Overbuff. Chances are, you will see at exactly what I mean lol.
But that’s also the thing, the “meta” isn’t actually a fixed one currently, Ramattra requires Juno and Mei to mostly function normal and it’s not everyone who plays those picks.
Dva/Ram are top contenders, but Winston/JQ/Rein/Zarya are all good picks depending the maps. But if you have to default yourself into one in ladder, Dva and Ram are (or were since the meta seems to be shifting in pro play and it might go slowly into ladder) top contenders with the right comp.
I also play in tournaments and an eSports team (but I’m not super duper high rank), and the Ram comps are the most frequent ones that teams default back to if the Dva one fails. But if you’re on Gibraltar, then it’s gonna be a Winston Dive, it’s just better.
EDIT: If you want a good example of what’s happening from pro plays. Asia is shifting towards an Orisa meta… while NA/EMEA is playing the Ram comp (live rn even if u wanna check it).
“The air calls!”
“Up you go!”
Orisa switched to Reinhardt/Zarya