Fix/Revert McCree

McCree is already the top dog, the best all-around hero in the game. He doesn’t need the extra health and frankly I don’t know how he made it this far without being reverted. Just look at the top 500 leaderboards, it’s all McCree. As of this post, 396 of the T500 players have him in their top 3 heroes played, which is nearly 80%.

I wouldn’t really care if this was just a Top 500 thing, but every rank is the same, Cree, Ashe, Tracer on repeat. Sometimes Echo, sometimes Hanzo, sometimes this, sometimes that, but you’re at such a disadvantage if you don’t meta slave. It’s time to rotate the dps hero pool, give some weird heroes the spotlight or something. I don’t know, I’m not a dev, but having only 3-5 dps out of 17 being the only viable picks for an extended period of time does not sound balanced to me.

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That is why the devs don’t mind McCree being the king. Pretty much any other hero and people will throw a hissy fit. Heck, obviously people are WITH McCree being top. You can never win!

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Yes he does, and the fact you think he doesnt shows you don’t understand the character at all. That 25 health is like the most important thing the character has.

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explain why he needs that extra health.

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Before he had the 25 HP buff he was consistently one of the worst DPS heroes in the game. He sat at the bottom of the charts in nearly every rank.

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i think the only thing he needs right now is his flash duration to be reverted back to 0.7 instead of 0.8. the only other changes needed imo are buffs to underperforming characters like orisa, moira, genji etc. (a small nerf to bap might be good also)

that will probably work to best to add some variety into the meta

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He’s only being used due to the meta here.

I implore you to look at Asia’s T500 leaderboard. McCree barely exists over there, which only further proves he isn’t OP and is incredibly meta-reliant, as is literally any other hero.

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The most simple reason is that without he is completely useless compared to ashe. There would statistically be no reason to use him if he didnt have that extra 25 allowing him to take more chip damage. Ashe shoots faster, has better anti dive in dynamite, coach and hip fire, has better vertical mobility, has a much, MUCH better ult, and has more reliable range.

while your right abt that McCree is a better brawler, he has a easy 1 shot combo on squishies, he has one of the best left right strafes, his ult got faster and has a stun. 25 health is completely irrelevant considering he has been an top tier character for a while now and he has one of the highest pick rates in the higher ranks.

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Wrong.

Her ADS Damage is 75 per .65 seconds

McCree’s is 70 damage per .5

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i’m not talking about her ads

Revert the hp.

If anything should be at the top it should be soldier.

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That oh so dreaded “one shot combo” is extremely easy to bait, his ult is still complete garbage above mid plat, and yes, as I said his stun is the only relevant part. Remember that when mccree first got his fire rate nerf, before the hp buff, he was completely useless, and remained as such until he received that hp buff.

I was more specifically referring to her hip fire in a close quarters situation, but even with ads, you have to admit for the range and accuracy ashe has in comparison their fire rates are pretty close, no?

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he was played in the last meta also

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He was meta without the 25 hp, its not a core part of his kit

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…What? He most certainly was not. Only with his insanely broken rate of fire was he ever meta at 200. After the fire rate nerf, even after a few other buffs, the character was still complete garbage until they buffed his health.

That statement is just flat out wrong.

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Not really. If you are in close quarters you can just FtH, CR, FtH. And since it’s 50 damage vs Ashe’s 40 damage he still wins. Ashe only beats him in distance. His fall off is more severe and since you can’t ADS I’d say it’s more difficult to hit Ashe in that range

Fan the hammer is useless without flash outside of like 3 feet in front of you.

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Is the spread that severe? I honestly don’t remember